Welcome to The Business of Fun, where we explore the secrets of successful mobile games and discover what goes on behind the screens. With your host Jonathan Fishman, we invite a mobile gaming expert onto the show in each episode to break down their game's success strategy: how it works, why it works, and what they would do differently.
Growth Marketing for Gourmet Gaming with Lucian Cotreanti, Head of Growth Marketing at Outplay Entertainment
In this episode of The Business of Fun podcast, Lucian Cotreanti, Head of Growth Marketing at Outplay Entertainment, joins our own Jonathan Fishman to dive into the integration of the Gordon Ramsay brand, exclusive recipes, and authentic voiceovers as standout features for the Gordon Ramsay: Chef Blast game. Lucian also highlights the importance of a performance view wave operation for growth strategies and the success of their destination giveaways, attracting high-quality users.
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26:05 | 9/7/23 | |
Exploring the Future of Game Development with AI with Mehmet Umut Ermeç
In this episode of The Business of Fun podcast, Mehmet Umut Ermeç, Co-Founder & CEO at Tiplay Studio, joins our own Jonathan Fishman to discuss the impact of artificial intelligence on the gaming industry. They explore how AI is being used in game development, the potential for AI to enhance creativity and future possibilities for AI in game production.
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39:56 | 6/22/23 | |
Unpacking the Intersection of ASO, Marketing, and AI in Gaming with Anton Tatarynovich
In this episode of The Business of Fun podcast, Anton Tatarynovich, Senior ASO and ASA Manager at Freeletics, joins our own Jonathan Fishman to discuss the evolution of app store optimization (ASO), the importance of aligning ASO, performance marketing teams, CRM teams, and activation teams, and the role of AI in ASO.
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47:38 | 5/29/23 | |
The Must-Have UA Skills For 2023
In this episode of The Business of Fun, we explore The Must-Have UA Skills For 2023 with Esther Shatz, VP of Product Marketing and Consultancy at Mavens, Andrej Kugonič, Head of Marketing at Nordeus, Mark Avidan, Director of UA at Zynga, and Antti Paikkala, Head of Marketing at Small Giant Games.
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43:01 | 4/13/23 | |
How to Create a World-Class Monetization Strategy for Your Mobile Games
In this episode of The Business of Fun, we cover How to Create a World-Class Monetization Strategy for Your Mobile Games with Jonathan Fishman, VP of Marketing and Growth at Mavens, Phil Suh, VP of Ad Monetization at Zynga, and Jeffrey Carlson, Head of Product, Publisher Products at Chartboost. They share golden tips on balancing in-app purchases, advertising, and other monetization techniques to optimize revenue without compromising user experience.
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58:17 | 4/6/23 | |
The Science of Organic Acquisition
In this episode of The Business of Fun, we share The Science of Organic Acquisition webinar with Shoham Lashkar, Director of ASO at Zynga, Amy Monier, Director of Product Marketing at Zynga, and Katie Blechner, Client Services Team Lead at mavens. They cover the state of organic attribution in the mobile gaming industry, different types of organic channels available for marketing, and tips on maximizing returns on investments with organic user acquisition.
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64:46 | 3/30/23 | |
How to Discover New and Creative Mobile Game Ideas That Scale with Stan Minasov, VP of Product at AppMagic
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Stan Minasov, the VP of Product at AppMagic, joins Jonathan Fishman to discuss how to balance creativity and the data-driven approach in mobile gaming, the science behind evaluating new mobile game ideas, and tips on how to come up with game ideas and monetize apps.
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57:51 | 12/15/22 | |
How to Win at Mobile Gaming in 2023 with Lexi Sydow, Head of Insights at data.ai
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Lexi Sydow, Head of Insights at data.ai. They discuss the state of mobile gaming specifically as we head into 2023, why gaming companies see a decrease in revenues, and how that should affect game marketers or publishing teams in the next six to twelve months.
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40:04 | 11/17/22 | |
Greatest Hits - User Acquisition Tips
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, we dive into some of the hottest tips on user acquisition from Alexander Lubchenko of Nekki, Alexey Gusev of Goodgame Studios, Stefana Pesko of Product Madness, and Tom Hammond of UserWise.
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21:29 | 10/13/22 | |
[Greatest Hits] Growing Without Paid UA? with Dora Trostanetsky of SoundCloud
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Esther Shatz is in conversation with Dora Trostanetsky, Director Growth Marketing at SoundCloud, where she shares that Soundcloud only recently started investing in paid user acquisition of how Soundcloud onboard users and ASO benefits for big brand names.
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40:33 | 9/8/22 | |
TikTok: the NextGen User Acquisition Mobile Channel with Ryan Thorpe, Co-Founder and CMO of Reflectly
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Ryan Thorpe, Co-Founder, and CMO of Reflectly. They discuss the role of TikTok in the world of mobile growth and how you can leverage its UA capabilities.
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32:35 | 8/25/22 | |
Influencer Marketing Hacks for Mobile Games with Alex Ruban, Head of Growth Strategy at Product Madness
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Alex Ruban, Head of Growth Strategy at Product Madness, to discuss how mobile game companies can leverage influencer marketing to grow downloads, installs, and user engagement.
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28:53 | 8/18/22 | |
Developing Winning Mobile Growth Strategies for Social Media Apps with Ariel Cohen, Head of Marketing at Tango
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Ariel Cohen, Head of Marketing at Tango, to discuss the latest trends in the social media market, the rise of live streaming, and the role of branding in mobile growth.
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43:27 | 8/11/22 | |
Disrupting the Energy Market Through Mobile Apps with Clarize Marais, Performance Marketing Lead at Ostrom
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Clarize Marais, Performance Marketing Lead at Ostrom, to discuss how Ostrom is pushing mobile in a traditional industry and disrupting the German energy market.
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29:25 | 8/4/22 | |
What Does the Future of Mobile Gaming Distribution Look Like? with Piyush Mishra, Head of Growth Marketing at Product Madness
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Piyush Mishra, Head of Growth Marketing at Product Madness, to discuss the differences between app-based and gaming companies, changes in the gaming industry, and the future of mobile gaming distribution.
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40:49 | 7/27/22 | |
Alternative User Acquisition Channels and Strategies in Mobile with Vladimir Alov of Head of Growth Marketing (Mobile) at Stoloto
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Esther Shatz is joined by Vladimir Alov, Head of Growth Marketing (Mobile) at Stoloto They discuss the effect of mobile performance from TikTok, the growth of organic traffic via alternative app stores, and how to tame a mobile agency.
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33:04 | 6/16/22 | |
Designing an Innovative User Acquisition Marketing Strategy with Stefana Pesko of Product Madness
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Esther Shatz is joined by Stefana Pesko, User Acquisition Manager at Product Madness. They discuss effective and creative UA strategies, tools, and future trends.
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30:07 | 6/2/22 | |
Leading Efficient User Acquisition and Growth Strategies in Mobile Gaming Industry with Mariusz Gąsiewski of Google
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Mariusz Gąsiewski, CEE Mobile Gaming Lead at Google, to discuss some efficient and scalable acquisition and growth strategies in the gaming business.
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34:50 | 5/26/22 | |
What Are the New Marketing and ASO Capabilities in Google Play, and What Do They Mean? with Esther Shatz and Jonathan Fishman of Storemaven
In this episode, our two Mobile Growth and Pancakes Podcast hosts - Esther Shatz, Storemaven’s VP Consultancy and Product Marketing, and Jonathan Fishman, VP Growth and Marketing, crossed to discuss the new Google Play Console capabilities announced in May 2022: From the boost to Custom Store Listings, Store Listing Experiments, and LiveOps, what it exactly means for developers and marketers and how to start using these abilities and consider them in your mobile growth strategy.
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22:27 | 5/19/22 | |
[Greatest Hits] Hyperlocal Growth Strategies with Jeff Aksengor of Podimo
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Esther Shatz is joined by Jeff Aksengor, Global Head of Growth at Podimo. The discuss how content consumption trends have made a broad shift during the pandemic. He also shares his insights on creating a localized growth strategy for hyperlocal content platforms.
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39:39 | 5/12/22 | |
[Greatest Hits] Growing Your Mobile App While Building Internal Credibility with Jeff Perkins of ParkMobile
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Esther Shatz is joined by Jeff Perkins, the newly-promoted CEO at ParkMobile. They discuss Jeff's secrets to building a sustainable marketing strategy and how to balance product vision execution and responding to user signals/feedback.
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40:37 | 5/5/22 | |
What Mobile Marketers Should Know About User-Generated Content Ads with Christian Eckhardt of Customlytics
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Christian Eckhardt, CEO of Customlytics, to discuss user-generated content ads and the consequences of working with big brand marketing agencies.
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36:25 | 4/28/22 | |
Developing a Growth Strategy for Different Mobile Game Categories with Jerome Turnbull of AppLovin
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Jerome Turnbull, VP of Growth at AppLovin, to discuss how to drive growth across different mobile game categories. They discuss how we think about partnerships for a first-party gaming business and share the tools and solutions AppLovin provides to help developers grow.
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29:53 | 4/21/22 | |
Driving Incremental Growth Through Mobile On-Device Campaigns with Dor Isseroff of ironSource
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Esther Schatz is joined by Dor Isseroff, Senior Director of Sales and Partnerships at ironSource, to discuss the benefits of on-device campaigns for mobile developers.
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27:35 | 4/14/22 | |
Driving Growth in the Mobile Gaming Industry with Enric Pedró of Tilting Point
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Enric Pedró, VP of Growth at Tilting Point, to discuss Enric's role at Tilting Point and his approach to mobile growth, UA, ASO, and analytics.
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52:30 | 4/7/22 | |
Mastering ASO in 2022 with Simon Thillay of AppTweak
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Simon Thillay, Head of ASO at AppTweak, to discuss why ASO benefits mobile leaders and their apps. They also dive into the strategic role of the ASO team and what new features and opportunities ASO teams should consider for 2022.
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45:37 | 3/17/22 | |
Managing Organic Methods for Mobile Growth with Iain Russell, of Moneyhub Enterprise
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Iain Russell, Head of Performance Marketing at Moneyhub Enterprise, to discuss organic methods and using available tools in the best way possible on a limited budget.
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28:06 | 3/10/22 | |
User Acquisition for Games with Long-term Monetization Post ATT Roll-Out With Alexey Gusev of Goodgame Studios
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman (subbing in for Esther Shatz) is joined by Alexey Gusev, Lead Performance Marketing at Goodgame Studios. They discuss the impact of ATT rollout on user acquisition with long-term monetization for games and how to engage with the new advertising landscapes.
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35:59 | 3/3/22 | |
Why and How to Develop Subscription-Based Apps with Dan Burcaw of Nami ML
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Esther Shatz is joined by Dan Burcaw, Co-Founder and CEO of Nami ML, to discuss strategies and tactics related to subscription-based apps.
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42:55 | 2/24/22 | |
How Do In-App Events Influence ASO and What is the Correlation Between Organic and Other Metrics with Jevgen Tarasenko of Tilting Point
In this episode of Mobile Growth & Pancakes, Jonathan Fishman is joined by Jevgen Tarasenko, Head of ASO/Organic Growth at Tilting Point. They discuss in-app event best practices and correlations between organic and other metrics.
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37:35 | 2/17/22 |