Zoweh's Exploring More Podcast is an invitation to conversations committed to sharing our discoveries of the wild and wonderful Kingdom of God… how it works, who we are in it, and the Love and Life that is constantly pursuing us. The Kingdom of God isn't easy nor is everything in our story good—there are predators and parasites in the spiritual realm, another kingdom, the kingdom of darkness that exists and violently opposes our discovering and becoming more. Exploring More is hosted by Michael Thompson, produced by Zoweh, and recorded in Durham, NC.
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue their series on Kingdom realities by exploring a powerful truth: the Gospel often meets us at our deepest point of need. For some, it's forgiveness. For others, it's healing, freedom, belonging, comfort, purpose, or hope. Michael and SJ share deeply personal stories of how God met them in seasons of desperation and transformed their understanding of the Gospel. SJ recounts one of the darkest chapters of his life—walking through divorce, estrangement from his son, PTSD, and months of suicidal thoughts. In the middle of that despair, a simple phone call from his sister and the truth of Isaiah 55 became an anchor that changed everything. Together, they explore the idea of a "customized Gospel"—not a different Gospel, but the many ways the one Gospel reveals itself to meet people exactly where they are. The conversation highlights how our personal stories shape the way we first experience Jesus and reminds us that there is always more of His Kingdom available than we may have previously understood. Michael and SJ also reflect on the verses, songs, and moments that become "posters on the walls of our hearts"—truths God uses to sustain us through every season of life. Whether you're walking through pain, searching for hope, or simply wanting to understand the Gospel more deeply, this episode is a reminder that Jesus meets people personally, compassionately, and right where they are.
08/07/2026 • 42:28
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings begin a brand-new series exploring one of the most foundational themes in Scripture: life. Not simply existence—but the abundant, eternal, Kingdom life Jesus came to give. Drawing from John 10:10, Michael and SJ unpack the biblical meaning of the Greek word zoe, revealing a life that is far greater than mere biological existence. It's the life of God's Kingdom available to us now—a life marked by intimacy with God, restoration, freedom, and transformation. The conversation explores the intersection of personal theology and biblical theology, asking how our experiences with God shape the way we understand Scripture—and how Scripture continually reshapes the way we experience God. Michael shares pieces of his own journey through seminary, influential books like Wild at Heart, and the profound impact of discovering C.S. Lewis's distinction between bios (natural life) and zoe (the life of God). Together, they challenge listeners to consider whether their faith has been built primarily on sin and forgiveness, or on the greater invitation of resurrection life and the Kingdom of God. The Gospel isn't simply about escaping death—it's about entering Life. This episode launches a series that invites listeners to rediscover the biblical reality of abundant life and to experience the deeper love, freedom, and restoration Jesus has always intended for His people.
01/07/2026 • 51:10
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue their conversation around The Life You Built by Scott Jennings, diving deeper into one of the most important realities of spiritual formation: growth is cyclical, not linear. Many of us expect healing and transformation to happen in a straight line. But what if the journey actually looks more like a wave? Awareness. Breakthrough. Peace. Trigger. Old patterns resurfacing. New awareness. Deeper surrender. Renewal. Michael and SJ explore how the false self and true self continue to emerge throughout life, especially in our closest relationships. They discuss the challenges of marriage, recurring conflicts, and the temptation to interpret, predict, and protect ourselves rather than remain open, curious, and compassionate. The conversation reveals how the false self operates through fear and self-protection, while the true self invites us into trust, presence, and connection. The episode also continues the discussion on the Enneagram as a tool for understanding motivations, emotional patterns, and relational dynamics. Rather than serving as a label, it can become a map that helps us recognize why we react the way we do and where God may be inviting deeper freedom. At the heart of the conversation is a powerful reminder: healing is not a one-time event. It's a lifelong process of learning to "ride the wave"—returning again and again to awareness, compassion, and truth. If you've ever felt discouraged by recurring struggles or wondered why old patterns keep resurfacing, this episode offers hope. Growth isn't about never falling back. It's about learning how to return.
24/06/2026 • 51:39
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson, SJ Jennings, and Scott Jennings continue their conversation around The Life You Built, exploring one of the most transformative ideas in the spiritual journey: the Great Exchange. What if the life you've been living was built around survival rather than freedom? Together, they unpack the ongoing process of moving from the false self to the true self—from protecting to trusting, performing to resting, pretending to revealing, and fear to love. While survival strategies may have helped us navigate pain, wounds, and difficult seasons, they were never meant to become our permanent identity. The conversation highlights the reality that freedom isn't about becoming someone new; it's about returning to who God created you to be. Michael, SJ, and Scott discuss how awareness, reflection, and grace help us recognize the ways the false self still operates in our lives and relationships. They also dive into the Enneagram, not as a tool for labeling people, but as a map for understanding motivations, patterns, and the hidden drivers behind our behavior. While acknowledging the controversy surrounding it, they explore how the Enneagram has helped many people gain greater self-awareness, healthier relationships, and deeper compassion for themselves and others. Ultimately, this episode is an invitation to exchange survival for freedom, fear for love, and self-protection for trust. The true self isn't something you have to create—it's the person God has been calling forth all along.
17/06/2026 • 49:10
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson welcomes Scott Jennings and Steve Knee for a powerful conversation around Scott's book, The Life You Built, and one of the most important journeys a man can take: moving from the false self to the true self. What if the version of you that learned to survive isn't the real you? Together, they explore the ways men construct false identities through wounds, fears, coping mechanisms, and performance. Over time, these strategies can become so familiar that they feel like who we are. But beneath the masks, defenses, and self-protection is the true self—the man God created and loves. The conversation centers on what Scott calls "The Great Exchange"—the ongoing process of recognizing the false self, releasing its grip, and learning to live from a place of truth, freedom, and belovedness. Michael, Scott, and Steve unpack practical steps for this journey, including awareness, self-observation, compassion, and choosing presence over fear. They also discuss the role of community in healing, using the image of interconnected aspen trees as a reminder that transformation was never meant to happen alone. Freedom isn't found by trying harder—it's found by becoming more honest, more awake, and more connected to God and others. If you've ever felt trapped by old patterns, exhausted by performance, or disconnected from your true self, this episode offers a hopeful invitation: the real you is still there, waiting to emerge.
10/06/2026 • 54:53
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings reflect on the impact of the Good Man Series and the lifelong journey of becoming wholehearted men. Looking back on years of ministry, friendships, and conversations with men, they explore what it means to move beyond performance and into a life marked by healing, freedom, and authenticity. Drawing from stories of transformation and personal experiences, Michael and SJ revisit one of the central themes of the series: becoming the man God created you to be. They discuss the importance of identity, brotherhood, and the courage it takes to engage your story honestly. The conversation highlights how healing is not a one-time event but an ongoing process that continues to shape every area of life. They also explore the significance of legacy—not just what a man accomplishes, but who he becomes and the impact he has on others. Through stories of friendship, mentorship, and spiritual growth, this episode serves as a reminder that every man is invited into a greater story, one where his life, wounds, gifts, and experiences can be redeemed and used for good. Whether you're just beginning your journey or have been walking this road for years, this conversation offers encouragement to stay engaged, remain open to God's work, and continue becoming more fully alive.
03/06/2026 • 53:26
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue unpacking the heart behind the Good Man Series, an eight-session journey created to help men recover their identity, heal what has been wounded, and step into the fullness of who God created them to be. What does it mean to become a good man? Not merely a better version of yourself—but a man who is becoming more wholehearted, more free, and more alive. Michael and SJ revisit some of the central themes of the series: masculinity, healing, the false self, and the invitation to rediscover the true self beneath the wounds, performance, and expectations that shape so many men's lives. At the center of the conversation is a profound idea from Saint Irenaeus: "The glory of God is man fully alive." The episode explores the significance of the final session on glory—the unique strength, calling, and beauty God placed in every man. It's not about ego or achievement. It's about becoming the man God dreamed of when He made you. Michael and SJ also reflect on the importance of commissioning, brotherhood, and continuing the journey beyond a single event or study. Healing isn't a destination—it's a lifelong invitation into deeper freedom, intimacy with God, and wholehearted living. This episode is an encouragement to stay in the process, share what you're learning with others, and trust that your story still holds purpose, healing, and more life ahead.
27/05/2026 • 54:54
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue the conversation around the Good Man Series, exploring what healing actually looks like—and why becoming a good man is inseparable from learning how to receive love. Healing isn't just about fixing what's broken. It's about uncovering the true self beneath the wounds, agreements, disappointments, and grief we've carried for years. Michael and SJ discuss the deeper work of restoration, the resistance many men feel toward receiving encouragement, and why even something as simple as a compliment can reveal what still needs healing. At the center of the conversation is a profound truth: good overcomes evil through love. Not striving. Not performance. Not shame. But through the restoring work of God that calls men back to who they truly are. Michael and SJ also unpack the effects of unresolved grief, the connection between emotional and physical health, and why healing is never meant to happen in isolation. Whether through friendship, brotherhood, or intentional spiritual practices, men need others to walk with them as they recover strength, goodness, and wholeheartedness. The journey toward healing isn't quick—but it is good. And the more whole a man becomes, the more freely he can love, lead, and live from the heart God intended. This episode is an invitation to keep going—to embrace the process, receive what God says is true about you, and trust that healing is still unfolding.
20/05/2026 • 42:57
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson continues the journey into the Good Man Series, offering a deeper look at the path men are invited to walk—from confusion and isolation to clarity, healing, and freedom. At the heart of the series is a bold claim: many men are living from a false version of themselves—shaped by wounds, agreements, and survival strategies—while their true self, created in the image of God, remains waiting to be recovered. Michael explores the core movements of the series—the larger story, the false self, and the true self—while sharing personal stories and real-world experiences from walking with men through this process. From moments of spiritual awakening (like being called "Aspen Andy") to the quiet, consistent work of brotherhood and community, this episode reminds us that transformation doesn't happen in isolation. The journey to becoming a good man isn't instant—it's formed through awareness, healing, courage, and training over time. It requires honesty to face your story, humility to receive help, and a willingness to remain engaged with God and others. If you've ever felt stuck, isolated, confused, or unsure how to move forward, this conversation is an invitation to keep going—to believe there is more healing, more freedom, and more life available.
13/05/2026 • 51:33
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson continues the journey into the Good Man Series, offering a deeper look at the path men are invited to walk—from confusion and isolation to clarity, healing, and freedom. At the heart of the series is a bold claim: many men are living from a false version of themselves—shaped by wounds, agreements, and survival strategies—while their true self, created in the image of God, remains waiting to be recovered. Michael explores the core movements of the series—the larger story, the false self, and the true self—while sharing personal stories and real-world experiences from leading men through this process. From moments of spiritual awakening (like being called "Aspen Andy") to the quiet, consistent work of community and brotherhood, this episode highlights that transformation doesn't happen in isolation. The journey to becoming a good man isn't instant—it's formed through awareness, healing, and training over time. It requires courage to face your story, humility to receive help, and a willingness to stay engaged with God and others. This episode is an invitation to keep going—to stay in the process, to step into community, and to believe that your story is not finished. There is more healing, more freedom, and more life available.
06/05/2026 • 46:27
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue the journey into the Good Man Series, focusing on the process of becoming the man you were always meant to be—and the environments that make that transformation possible. What does it actually look like for a man to engage his story, face his patterns, and recover his true self? Michael and SJ unpack the heart behind the Good Man Series as more than just content—it's an experience. Whether through small groups, weekend intensives, or intentional conversations, this resource is designed to create space for men to slow down, reflect, and engage the deeper questions shaping their lives. They explore the tension many men live in—swinging between aggression and passivity—and the importance of self-awareness, honesty, and community in breaking those patterns. The conversation emphasizes that growth begins with recognizing where you are, naming what's not working, and choosing to step toward something better. At the core of it all is identity. Not something you earn, but something you uncover. As men begin to see that their true self is good—and worth fighting for—it opens the door to deeper intimacy with God and more authentic relationships with others. This episode is an invitation to stop going it alone, to step into brotherhood, and to take the next step in your journey toward wholeness.
29/04/2026 • 36:42
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue the conversation around the Good Man Series, stepping into one of the most foundational—and often misunderstood—questions: Are men truly good? Challenging the deeply rooted belief that we are primarily broken or bad, Michael and SJ explore the biblical truth that we are created in the image of God—and that goodness is not something we earn, but something we recover. Drawing from passages like Romans 12 and Matthew 12, they unpack the reality that good is not only powerful, but meant to overcome evil. Through stories, Scripture, and real-life examples—including coaching and fatherhood—they contrast two approaches to growth: condemnation versus affirmation. One produces shame and performance. The other calls out identity and invites transformation. This episode presses into the idea that what a man believes about himself will shape how he lives, loves, and leads. When men begin to see themselves rightly—as beloved sons with goodness at their core—it changes everything. This is more than a theological conversation. It's an invitation to reject false narratives, confront the lies you've believed, and step into the kind of man God says you are.
22/04/2026 • 46:33
For more information on "The Good Man Series" Visit: https://www.thegoodmanseries.com/ To help fuel this podcast: Zoweh.org/give In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue introducing the Good Man Series—a powerful, biblically grounded resource designed to help men rediscover who they truly are and step into a life of freedom, strength, and connection. This series isn't just content—it's a guided journey. Through four key movements—understanding the larger story, identifying the false self, addressing past wounds, and recovering the true self—men are invited to examine the narratives shaping their lives and begin the work of healing and transformation. Michael and SJ unpack the reality that many men are living from a version of themselves shaped by fear, shame, and performance. The Good Man Series offers a way out—through intentional reflection, honest community, and deeper intimacy with God. Alongside the video sessions, the companion journal and leader guide provide practical tools for individuals and groups to engage the process in meaningful ways. This episode is an invitation to step into the journey—not alone, but with others—and to discover the kind of man God created you to be: one who knows his identity, faces his story, and lives from a place of belovedness.
15/04/2026 • 43:33
To help fuel this podcast: Zoweh.org/give The Gospel In Secondhand Lions In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue their exploration of powerful stories by stepping into the film Secondhand Lions—a story rich with themes of honor, courage, and what it truly means to become a good man. Why do certain stories stay with us? Why do lines from films resonate in our hearts the same way Scripture can? Michael and SJ unpack the idea that great storytelling acts like a tuning fork—awakening something deep within us that was always meant to respond to truth, beauty, and goodness. Through the journey of young Walter and his uncles Hub and Garth, they explore the masculine journey, the power of initiation, and the importance of having older men speak identity and courage into the next generation. A pivotal moment in the film—Hub's speech about what makes a man—becomes a doorway into deeper conversations about belief, virtue, and choosing to live for something worth fighting for. This episode is an invitation to rediscover the power of story—not just as entertainment, but as formation. To consider the stories shaping you, the truths they awaken, and the kind of man they are calling you to become. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📅 Heart of a Warrior Encounter: April 16–19, 2026 – Register Here 📕 Podcast Archive + Show Notes: zoweh.org/podcast
01/04/2026 • 60:54
To help fuel this podcast: Zoweh.org/give The Gospel In The Matrix In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings step into one of the most iconic films of a generation—The Matrix—and explore its powerful spiritual parallels to the Christian journey. What if the world isn't as it seems? What if much of what we believe, pursue, and react to has been shaped by a system we were never meant to live in? Through the story of Neo's awakening, Michael and SJ unpack themes of deception, identity, and freedom—drawing striking connections between the Matrix and the spiritual reality of a world at war for the human heart. The idea of being "unplugged" becomes more than a cinematic moment—it becomes a picture of what it means to awaken to truth, to step out of false narratives, and to begin living as who we were truly created to be. They explore the role of the mentor, the cost of awakening, and the ongoing training required to live free. Along the way, they reflect on personal moments of spiritual awakening—times when God broke through assumptions, exposed lies, and invited them into a deeper understanding of His presence and kingdom. This episode is an invitation to examine the systems shaping your thinking, to recognize the battle for your heart, and to consider what it might look like to truly wake up—and live free. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us!Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📅 Heart of a Warrior Encounter: April 16–19, 2026 – Register Here 📕 Podcast Archive + Show Notes: zoweh.org/podcast
25/03/2026 • 48:22
To help fuel this podcast: Zoweh.org/give The Stories Fathers Leave Behind In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings conclude the Father Matters series with a powerful conversation about legacy—what fathers ultimately leave behind in the hearts of their children. Legacy isn't built through perfection or achievement. It's formed through presence, engagement, forgiveness, and the stories we share along the way. Michael reflects on the lasting influence of his own father's words and presence, reminding dads that their impact doesn't end when children grow up. The invitation is to stay engaged, to keep asking questions, and to continue investing in relationship no matter the stage of life. Throughout the episode, Michael and SJ explore the role of forgiveness in shaping legacy, the importance of sharing personal stories so children understand their parents' journey, and the power of prayer as fathers bless and intercede for their sons and daughters. Practical ideas—simple conversations, shared experiences, texts, letters, and moments of attention—become the building blocks of a meaningful inheritance. As the series closes, fathers are reminded that the greatest legacy is not wealth or accomplishment but a heart that felt seen, known, and loved. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📅 Heart of a Warrior Encounter: April 16–19, 2026 – Register Here 📕 Podcast Archive + Show Notes: zoweh.org/podcast
18/03/2026 • 51:37
Link to the Pursuit of Happiness: https://youtu.be/UZb2NOHPA2A?si=uW8ZKT1F4mNo2pvF To help fuel this podcast: Zoweh.org/give Healing Shame in the Family Story In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue the Father Matters series by addressing one of the most powerful and often hidden forces shaping father–child relationships: shame. Many fathers carry unresolved shame from their own stories, and without realizing it, can pass that weight on to their children through words, expectations, or reactions. Michael and SJ unpack the crucial difference between guilt and shame—guilt says "I did something wrong," while shame whispers "something is wrong with me." When shame takes root, it can quietly shape identity and relationships for years. Through personal stories and honest reflection, the conversation explores how fathers can become more aware of the impact of their tone, responses, and presence. They highlight the power of empathy, attentive listening, and real-time repair—those humble moments when a father says, "I'm sorry." Far from weakening authority, these moments build trust, healing, and connection. This episode invites fathers to move beyond fear and perfection into humility and redemption—becoming men who confront shame, repair wounds, and help their children grow in freedom and belovedness. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📅 Heart of a Warrior Encounter: April 16–19, 2026 – Register Here 📕 Podcast Archive + Show Notes: zoweh.org/podcast
11/03/2026 • 56:04
To help fuel this podcast: Zoweh.org/give Seeing the Glory in Your Child In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue the Father Matters series by stepping into one of the most sacred assignments of fatherhood: supporting your children's dreams. Building on previous conversations about glory and identity, this episode explores how fathers can affirm the direction their children are heading—without controlling, lecturing, or projecting their own unmet ambitions. Through the story of Rudy and personal parenting moments, Michael and SJ highlight the power of simple but life-shaping words like, "I'm proud of you," and "I want to." They unpack the difference between interpreting your child's story accurately versus imposing your own narrative, the importance of being present in both success and failure, and the critical role of prayer in guiding a child's path. Supporting dreams isn't about guaranteeing outcomes—it's about offering belief, advocacy, and steady love along the way. This episode is an invitation for fathers to move from correction to encouragement, from pressure to partnership, and from fear to faith as they walk with their children toward the future God is shaping. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📅 Heart of a Warrior Encounter: April 16–19, 2026 – Register Here 📕 Podcast Archive + Show Notes: zoweh.org/podcast
04/03/2026 • 49:45
To help fuel this podcast: Zoweh.org/give Seeing the Glory in Your Child In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue the Father Matters series by moving fatherhood beyond behavior management and into something far deeper: character, calling, and glory. Too often, parenting can default to correction, compliance, and control. But what if fathering is about recognizing and nurturing the unique "glory" God has placed within each child? Drawing from Proverbs 22 and personal stories of missed and redeemed opportunities, Michael and SJ invite fathers to shift from shaping behavior to stewarding identity. They explore the long-term impact of presence, the courage it takes to truly understand a child's heart, and the importance of advocating for a child's interests—even when it requires inconvenience or sacrifice. The conversation also widens the lens, reminding men that spiritual fathering isn't limited to biological children. There are sons and daughters everywhere who need affirmation, guidance, and belief. This episode is a call to see your children as image bearers, to pursue understanding over control, and to nurture the particular design God has entrusted to you. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📅 Heart of a Warrior Encounter: April 16–19, 2026 – Register Here 📕 Podcast Archive + Show Notes: zoweh.org/podcast
25/02/2026 • 46:38
To help fuel this podcast: Zoweh.org/give Fighting for the Hearts of Your Kids In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue the Father Matters series by exploring a powerful dimension of fatherhood: advocacy. What does it mean to truly fight for your children's hearts? Michael and SJ unpack the difference between passive fathering and aggressive control—and introduce a third way: engaged, intentional advocacy. Fathers are invited to move beyond simply providing or correcting and into actively supporting their children's interests, decisions, and growing agency. Whether it's backing a big move, stepping into online gaming worlds, or standing up for a child in difficult environments, advocacy communicates something profound: "I am with you." The conversation also revisits the deeper roots of fathering—how our own upbringing shapes our instincts, reactions, and fears. Healing matters. Being fathered by God matters. Because when we receive unconditional love from the Father, we're empowered to extend that same steady presence and strength to our sons and daughters. This episode is a call to courageous engagement—to become the kind of father who protects without controlling, guides without shaming, and loves without condition. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📅 Heart of a Warrior Encounter: April 16–19, 2026 – Register Here 📕 Podcast Archive + Show Notes: zoweh.org/podcast
18/02/2026 • 48:20
To help fuel this podcast: Zoweh.org/give Restoring Relationship with Your Kids In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue the Father Matters series by diving into the heart of fatherhood—a journey that begins with healing and continues through connection, repair, and redemption. Through Ephesians 5:1–2 and personal stories, the conversation unpacks the core truth that you can't love your kids well if you haven't received the extravagant love of the Father. Michael and SJ share their own experiences of navigating past wounds, rebuilding trust, and falling off the pedestal of perfection. They speak candidly about parenting from the false self, the challenges of offering real apologies, and the power of engaging our kids in conversations about their experience of being fathered. This episode is an invitation for dads to move from performance into presence, from distance into intimacy—with their children and with God. Whether you're starting the journey or already in the deep waters of fatherhood, there's more healing and hope available than you think. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📅 Heart of a Warrior Encounter: April 16–19, 2026 – Register Here 📕 Podcast Archive + Show Notes: zoweh.org/podcast
11/02/2026 • 48:26
In this week's episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings continue their deep dive into fatherhood with Part 2 of the Father Matters series. Centered around three foundational truths—that you can't father well unless you've been fathered, that fatherhood is relational not transactional, and that fatherhood never ends—the conversation challenges men to reflect on their own stories and press into presence over performance. Through personal stories and practical insights, Michael and SJ explore how being present, engaged, and intentional creates space for deeper connection and healing in relationships with children. They name the common distractions—busyness, financial stress, past wounds—and point to the quiet heroism of simply showing up. The power of meaningful questions, the role of forgiveness, and the impact of being emotionally available are all part of the journey. Whether you're a new dad, a seasoned father, or healing from your own father story, this episode is a heartfelt reminder that God is still fathering you—and He wants to empower you to father well. We hope you enjoy this episode of The Exploring More Podcast, and invite you to connect with us! Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 📕 Podcast: zoweh.org/podcast 📅 Register for The Heart of a Warrior Encounter (April 16–19, 2026): zoweh.org/events
04/02/2026 • 50:48
In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings launch a powerful new series called Father Matters—an eight-part journey into the heart of fatherhood, sonship, and legacy. Inspired by the final chapters of Michael's book King Me, the series invites men to examine their fathering stories: how they were fathered, how they father now, and how their relationship with God the Father can transform both. Michael and SJ walk through the first few themes of the devotional—beginning with the foundational idea that we are sons before we are fathers. The conversation explores the tension between presence and performance, the impact of blessing and naming identity, and the need to initiate—not just manage—our children's experiences. From making repairs to setting boundaries to letting go, each session of Father Matters invites deep reflection and courageous conversations. As Michael shares, the way we were fathered influences how we lead, protect, and love. This episode is a personal and practical start to a series that calls men to heal old wounds, live from their restored identity, and leave a meaningful legacy. 📕 email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🧭 Join a Father Matters Zoom group: https://www.zoweh.org/allies 📅 Register for The Heart of a Warrior Encounter (April 16–19, 2026): https://www.zoweh.org/events
28/01/2026 • 55:11
The Gospel in The Notebook In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings turn to an unexpected favorite—The Notebook—to explore the deeper longings of the human heart. What might seem like a simple romantic drama becomes a window into themes of pursuit, sacrifice, faithfulness, and sacred romance woven into the larger story God is telling. Through the characters of Noah and Allie, Michael and SJ unpack what it means to fight for love over time, through opposition, loss, and suffering. They reflect on the beauty of being chosen, known, and pursued—and how true romance always carries a cost. The conversation moves beyond sentimentality into the reality that real love is forged through perseverance, courage, and self-giving devotion. Alongside their film analysis, Michael shares a personal story of encountering God's presence in an unexpected moment—drawing a parallel between divine pursuit and human romance. Together, they invite listeners to consider how stories like The Notebook awaken something holy in us: a longing to be fully loved and to give ourselves away for something greater. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Sign Up for the Heart of a Warrior Encounter: www.zoweh.org/events 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more: https://www.zoweh.org/podcast
21/01/2026 • 50:34
The Gospel in Lord of the Rings In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings journey through the epic world of The Lord of the Rings—exploring how Tolkien's masterpiece mirrors the deeper spiritual realities of our own lives. From the quiet comfort of the Shire to the battlefields of Middle Earth, the conversation follows Frodo, Gandalf, Aragorn, and the fellowship as they answer the call to adventure, face down evil, and sacrifice for something greater than themselves. Using the trailers from The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King, Michael and SJ unpack the arc of the Hero's Journey and why it continues to resonate. They reflect on the pull toward comfort, the cost of leaving "the normal world," and the significance of choosing hope in the darkest places. The ring becomes more than a plot device—it's a symbol of the burdens we carry and the battles we face daily. With personal stories, spiritual insight, and reverence for the storytelling genius of Tolkien, this episode reminds us that every man is in a larger story—one filled with glory, grief, and a King worth following. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Sign Up for the Heart of a Warrior Encounter: www.zoweh.org/events 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more: https://www.zoweh.org/podcast
14/01/2026 • 51:21
The Gospel in Tombstone Sign up for the Father Matters Zoom Group: https://www.zoweh.org/events#circles In this episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings kick off their new "Faves" series by diving into one of their all-time favorite films: Tombstone. Through the lens of the friendship between Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday, they unpack themes of sacrifice, loyalty, and brotherhood—exploring how one man laid down his life so another could live his. Drawing from Joseph Campbell's "Hero's Journey," they reflect on the arcs of transformation, the call to adventure, and the role of mentors, weaving these archetypes into real-life spiritual parallels. As they recount powerful moments from Tombstone, the conversation touches on the universal longing for a normal life, the inevitable confrontation with evil, and the beauty of redemptive friendship. Whether it's Wyatt's search for peace or Doc's act of selfless love, the hosts invite listeners to consider the ways story helps us see our own battles, questions, and courage more clearly. It's not just a movie episode—it's a deep reflection on the power of story to mirror truth, stir the soul, and invite us into the greater story God is telling. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Sign Up for the Heart of a Warrior Encounter: www.zoweh.org/events 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more: https://www.zoweh.org/podcast
07/01/2026 • 64:07
Give and End-of-Year Gift Here: zoweh.org/eoy25 In the final Exploring More podcast episode of the year, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings slow down to reflect on presence, soul care, and the relentless love of God. From the joy of receiving a personal sign from God to the challenge of letting go of false beliefs, they unpack the paradox of a love that both has no limits and still honors our boundaries. This honest and reflective conversation explores what it means to be known and loved by God—and how we often struggle to receive that kind of love. They discuss practical ways to engage your soul, such as reviewing your calendar, photos, and journals to see where God was present in your year. Along the way, they offer wisdom for setting intentions for the new year, cultivating self-awareness, and trading performance for presence. Whether you're ending the year on a high note or in the depths of transition, this episode is a tender invitation to sit with your story, let God speak, and walk forward with hope. As Michael says, "There's more life, more love, and more freedom to be had… but it starts with being still." We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Sign Up for the Heart of a Warrior Encounter: www.zoweh.org/events 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more: https://www.zoweh.org/podcast
31/12/2025 • 47:23
Give and End-of-Year Gift Here: zoweh.org/eoy25 In this special Christmas Eve edition of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings invite you into a reflective and joy-filled conversation about the heart of the holiday season. Far beyond the tinsel, carols, and gifts, they explore the true significance of Christmas—the presence of Jesus as the ultimate present. Through personal stories, favorite traditions, and honest reflections, they unpack how presence—God's and ours—transforms the meaning of Christmas. From a flashlight found on a trail to the haunting beauty of "O Holy Night," this episode is a heartfelt call to slow down, notice what really matters, and let yourself be moved. As the year draws to a close, Michael and SJ also encourage listeners to ponder the past and prepare their hearts for what's ahead, offering space to reflect on God's goodness and nearness throughout the journey. 🎄 Whether you're celebrating with a full house or carrying quiet grief this year, this episode offers hope, grounding, and a reminder: You're not alone. He is with us. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! Sign Up for the Heart of a Warrior Encounter: zoweh.org/events 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more: https://www.zoweh.org/podcast
24/12/2025 • 44:12
What if the Holidays are Hard? In this heartfelt episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings dive into the complex emotional terrain of the holiday season. While Christmas and Thanksgiving are often painted as joyful and magical, they acknowledge that for many, the holidays bring up grief, loneliness, and the ache of change. Whether it's a first Christmas without a loved one, a tradition lost to transition, or a general feeling of disconnection, this episode reminds listeners that they're not alone—and that presence often speaks louder than words. Michael and SJ share vulnerable stories about their own shifting holiday experiences, from quiet moments in Marco Island to family members moving away. They explore the tension between honoring old traditions and stepping into new ones, and how to navigate this "liminal space" with empathy and courage. Rather than fixing others or offering shallow cheer, they invite us to show up with compassion—doing the dishes, offering silence, or simply asking, "Would it help to talk?" The episode includes practical encouragement for those supporting others through a hard season, as well as a reminder: we're all walking each other home. Whether you're grieving, reflecting, or just feeling the weight of the season, this conversation offers space to breathe and a gentle nudge toward connection, healing, and hope. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! The Listening Guide: https://www.zowehoutpost.com/listening-well-a-guide-for-men-pdf-download/ 🔔 Don't miss the upcoming Christmas Eve episode on the presence of God in the Christmas story. 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more: https://www.zoweh.org/podcast The Boy, The Mole, The Fox, and The Horse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbdem4g_LEc
17/12/2025 • 38:03
What makes a gift meaningful? In this heartwarming holiday episode of the Exploring More podcast, Michael Thompson and SJ Jennings unpack the deeper meaning behind giving and receiving gifts. What makes a present truly meaningful? It's not the price tag—but the story, the thought, and the heart behind it. From a toy fire truck that honored a man's courageous past to a miniature Jeep gifted with intention and love, the guys share personal stories that point to something deeper: presence. The conversation explores why personalized gifts hit differently—because they tell someone, I see you, I remember you, and you matter. But Michael and SJ also acknowledge the tension many feel during this season—depression, grief, unmet expectations—and how practicing presence can bring hope, healing, and joy even in hard times. They talk about how being attentive, listening well, and remembering someone's story opens the door to giving relationally, not just materially. Whether you're a last-minute shopper or someone who curates gifts all year long, this episode invites you to slow down and consider how the best gifts flow from being present to God and others. We hope you enjoy this episode and invite you to connect with us! 🔔 Don't miss the upcoming Christmas Eve episode on the presence of God in the Christmas story. 📧 Email us: exploringmore@zoweh.org 🌐 Learn more: https://www.zoweh.org/podcast
10/12/2025 • 47:13
