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Warfare of Art & Law Podcast

Warfare of Art and Law Podcast sparks conversation about the intriguing – and sometimes infuriating – stories that arise in the worlds of art and law with artist and attorney Stephanie Drawdy. 

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Author & Art Historian Dr Laura Morelli Discusses her Historical Fiction Novel The Last Masterpiece and WWII Looting of Florentine Collections
To learn more, please visit Laura Morelli's site.Show Notes:0:00 Laura Morelli  discussing the WWII era art looting1:15 genesis of writing about the looting of Florentine art collections in The Last Masterpiece 2:45 German Jewish artist Rudolph Levy as guest of German Art History Institute 4:30 Stolperstein for Levy5:00 perspectives in WWII Italy: museum officials, German expatriates and Allies8:30 German Eva Brunner and American Josephine Evans - characters in The Last Masterpiece 9:30 decisions on where to begin and end The Last Masterpiece13:30 decision to use fictional characters versus historical figures in book14:40 German Art History Institute Director Prof. Friedrich Kriegbaum16:00 Kriegbaum’s participation in Hitler’s 1938 tour of Florence18:25 Brunner’s back story20:10 German photographer Hilde Lotz-Bauer who worked for Prof. Kriegbaum photographing Allied damage to historical monuments in Florence 24:15 Evans based on Women’s Army Corp (WACs)28:25 women who worked with and supported the Monuments Men29:00 justice in terms of the individual actions and decisions that enabled the survival of art looted during WWII31:30 books by Robert Edsel and Ilaria Dagnini Brey32:15 survival bias 33:30 van Dyck painting33:40 Uffizi Director Eike Schmidt’s work for Germany to return looted Dutch painting35:00 impact of propaganda during WWII38:10 Michelangelo’s Secret Room with 16th C drawings 42:20 2024 release of book related to hiding places in Tuscan countryside in 1943-44Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
46:00 4/21/24
Novelist & Attorney Barbara Hinske Discusses her Rosemont Series, Guiding Emily Series & Hallmark Movie, Discrimination Against the Blind, Art's Ability to Address Social Issues and Much More
To learn more, please visit Barbara Hinske's website.Cover photo of Barbara Hinske, 2020 Jean Laninga Creative.Show Notes:0:00 Guiding Emily Series to effect change for good in the sighted community1:15 background in engineering and the law2:00 whodunit books by Barbara’s father2:25 double vision by auto accident led to Rosemont series3:55 her approach to writing while still working as an attorney 7:00 work with a writing coach8:15 writing coach Linden Gross 8:45 Author Conference on Clubhouse 10:30 Rosemont Series  13:50 Guiding Emily Series14:45 Guiding Emily movie on Hallmark in April 2024 15:00 genesis of Guiding Emily at Foundation for Blind Children 22:50 discrimination against the visually impaired community24:45 unemployment rate of the visually impaired community26:00 panel to address employability of individuals from visually impaired community30:05 viewers@hallmarkmedia.com 35:20 exclusion of unsighted parents37:30 guide dog graduation ceremony40:20 Guiding Emily presentation41:40 power of art to shift and address social issues42:00 The Christmas Club 44:00 pregnant unsighted individual’s experience45:30 Canadian child at Foundation for Blind Children 46:55 definition of justice49:15 The Write Approach podcast 51:20 Hinske’s strong older female protagonists 53:50 Final Circuit 57:30 self-published in e-book and print; traditionally published in audio58:00 Hinske’s legacy to uplift, encourage and empowerPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
60:11 4/7/24
*Bonus* "Manifestation of Freedom" from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid
Featuring excerpts from Episode 108, an interview with Dr. Ashfaq Ishaq, and Episode 105, an interview with Milena Chorna, with musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2024.Many thanks to M.C. Sungaila who sparked the idea for "Manifestation of Freedom". Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
03:18 3/31/24
Appellate Attorney M.C. Sungaila on Space Cultural Heritage Preservation and Lessons to be drawn from Holocaust-Era Restitution Cases like Cassirer
Show Notes:0:00 M.C. Sungaila discussing history / preservation of space exploration 1:50 Sungaila’s Portia Project Podcast interview with Space Law Expert Michelle Hanlon 2:45 Sungaila’s experience with University of Mississippi School of Law’s Air and Space Program 5:30 unclear language related to space law8:00 mining on the moon9:40 lessons from Holocaust-era restitution cases like Cassirer v. Thyssen-Bornemisza Collection Foundation12:30 For All Moonkind 13:30 International Symposium on Cultural Heritage in War and Peace: Tangible and Intangible Cultural Heritage through Past, Present and Future 16:45 Sungaila’s proposed framework to create space cultural heritage commission22:45 The Artemis Accords24:50 Italian Opera added to UNESCO intangible cultural heritage list25:15 treaty requiring registration of space objects 25:35 For All Moonkind’s moon registry 26:10 One Small Step To Protect Human Heritage in Space Act 27:40 Sungaila’s projection 29:30 Dubai space court31:25 urgency of space cultural heritage preservation32:40 definition of justice 35:40 9th Cir's 9 Jan 2024 opinion in Cassirer and the question of ethics and law39:45 Mismatch between domestic law and international obligations 42:10 Institute on Space Law and Ethics 44:00 issues related to satellites, drones, air taxisPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
47:07 3/3/24
Attorney Sanjay Sethi Discusses Artistic Freedom Initiative's Work, Oppression of the Arts and Cultural Sectors Globally & the Need for Pluralistic Discourse
Cover image by Nosrat Tarighi of Sanjay Sethi at an AFI event entitled Revolutions and MovementsTo learn more, please visit the sites for Artistic Freedom Initiative and Sethi & Mazaheri, LLC.Show Notes:2:00 overview of Sethi’s background and work as Founding Partner of Sethi & Mazaheri, LLC and Co-Executive Director of Artistic Freedom Initiative (AFI)3:45 genesis and mission of AFI5:00 AFI’s services8:00 AFI’s residency program9:00 AFI’s Artists for Social Change9:45 challenges to helping artists13:00 AFI’s creation of a sponsorship model13:30 AFI’s program in Germany15:00 determination of artists in imminent danger16:20 assistance for female artists18:20 university placements for female artists18:40 the New School’s fellowships for Afghan artists at risk19:00 Germany’s program for artists at risk21:00 Journals of Exile at the Berliner Ensemble22:10 programs through AFI’s Artists For Social Change23:45 Brazilian Singer Songwriter Bia Ferreira25:20 AFI’s Afghan Artists Protection Project & Iranian Artists Support Project27:00 challenges of single intent visas like student visas and O-1 visas28:30 denial of entry based on immigration intent for Afghan versus Iranian artists 30:00 applications from Myanmar, Egypt, Nicaragua, India and particular Kashmir31:00 impact of prior and upcoming elections 31:30 Poland shifted back to center left with loss of Law and Justice (PiS) party31:50 Slovakia’s election of Robert Fico with agenda similar to Hungary’s Viktor Orbán32:00 Slovenia’s election of liberal Robert Golob32:10 Brazil’s election of leftist former president, defeating Pres. Jair Bolsonaro32:15 Indian PM Narendra Modi’s Hindu Nationalist Party projected to win 32:30 elections in Italy and the Netherlands32:45 new and different threats to cultural sectors globally33:00 AfI’s Artistic Freedom Monitor - initial reports on Poland and Hungary36:00 regimes replaced museum/cultural institution heads with right wing politicians36:00 Curation of shows under those regimes would conform to nationalist ideals37:25  defunding anti-regime institutions or anti-Catholic in Poland 37:50 intimidation of non-conforming artists38:10 Poland’s use of blasphemy law to criminally charge non-conforming artists38:00 chilling effect of such subversive mechanisms 39:15 AFI’s position that arts decisions should be merits-based and non-ideological   39:30 response to Artistic Freedom Monitor’s reports40:00 erroneous belief that arts are inconsequential in public & political dialogue 41:35 elevation of AFI’s advocacy efforts to an international forum 44:00 collaboration to lobby for artistic and creative freedom45:00 impact of artificial intelligence 47:50 legacy of his work49:50 how his notion of justice has evolvedPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
55:07 2/18/24
Dr. Elizabeth White and Dr. Joanna Sliwa discuss their book, The Counterfeit Countess: the Jewish Woman Who Rescued Thousands of Poles During the Holocaust
Show Notes:2:00 Dr. Joanna Sliwa’s background4:20 Dr. Elizabeth White’s background 5:20 Majdanek concentration camp8:00 1989 - White received the manuscript of Dr. Janina Mehlberg’s unpublished memoir from Dr. Arthur Funk10:30 Dr. Janina Mehlberg’s humanitarian work in Polish concentration camp during WWII12:20 Mehlberg’s alias as Countess Suchodolska13:30 2018 - Dr. Joanna Sliwa began work with Dr. White to research Mehlberg's memoir15:00 reading from The Counterfeit Countess20:00 balance of co-authoring The Counterfeit Countess22:20 research process24:00 surprises from the research 27:45 Countess Karolina Lanckorońska30:30 Saturnina Malm33:30 Dr. Stefania Perzanowska 35:00 view of women’s roles during war and instances of persecution 38:00 empathic approach of Mehlberg as a model for today42:00 propoganda46:00 individual ways to address hate49:00 justice51:45 legacy54:30 Sliwa’s focus on marginalized groups, including future volume on experiences of older jews before, during and after the Holocaust  Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
57:14 2/4/24
Researcher Chiara Gallo on Influencer Advertising & Art - A 2ND Saturday Conversation
Show Notes:1:00 overview of thesis topic3:00 2018 music video at the Louvre by Beyoncé and Jay Z 3:55 Advertising campaign by Louis Vuitton that featured Joan Mitchell paintings6:00 2020 Uffizi promotional campaign to promote Botticelli exhibition7:25 Uffizi’s TikTok account posting with Dua Lipa 8:10 criticism of Uffizi campaigns9:20 Approaches by EU and UK11:20 Influencer marketing14:35 EU Directive30:10 Italian approach 33:00 liability under Italian case law and consumer code35:30 historical events that caused Gallo’s choice on research and thesis37:00 Emily Gould38:20 Alan Robertshaw 43:15 risks and contractual issue with fees46:20 Gould47:45 Gallo on InstaGram disclosure Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
51:10 1/21/24
Anthropologist and Author Dr. Giovanni Ercolani on Artists in Ukraine Who Are Preserving the Spirit of Maidan
To learn more, please have a look at Dr. Ercolani's book, The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan.Show Notes:1:00 Ercolani’s background3:50 Ercolani’s focus of Ukraine6:40 research and writing The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan11:40 new Maidan language created that includes symbols14:45 portraits by Marina Sochenko16:50 Yulia Ovcharenko17:45 Tatyana Cheprasova18:20 Cheprasova’s use of Caravaggio 19:00 Oleksandr Ivanovych Melnyk’s “I Can See Your Deeds”19:45 Melnyk’s “I Can See Your Deeds”20:25 French anthropologist Marc Augé - ‘anthropology of encounter’21:15 Marina Sochenko’s art as documentation21:55 Artistic Hundreds group22:15 Artist Ivan Semesyuk with Artistic Hundreds26:15 Kandinsky quote that artists are receivers and beneficiaries28:15 Maidan art and a new world order33:45 NATO36:45 Maidan revolution and the current war41:00 memory of identify and identity war42:05 author Andrey Kurkov’s move to Ukraine to have the identity of Ukrainians43:25 significant of preserving art and cultural heritage in times of conflict47:00 his legacy 49:50 his definition of justice51:15 the constitution of Melfi by Emperor Frederick II53:15 link between Russian-Ukraine War and Maidan Revolution58:45 next projects focused on conflict in society1:00:30 anthropological identity work tied to art and cultural heritage1:02:30 artist seen as enemyPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
66:54 1/7/24
*Bonus* “Signs” from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid
Featuring excerpts from Episode 121, an interview with Dr. Samson Munn and musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2023.Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
03:54 12/22/23
Copyright Advocate & Author David Newhoff on State Sovereign Immunity, IP, AI and Artists' Rights - A 2ND Saturday Conversation
Cover Photo of David Newhoff by Sean MekasTo learn more, please visit Mr. Newhoff's site as well as his blog, The Illusion of More.Show Notes:1:45 Newhoff’s background 4:15 impetus to write Who Invented Oscar Wilde?: The Photograph at the Center of Modern American Copyright? 6:15 SCOTUS’s Warhol decision10:00 Sarony’s input compared with and AI users’ input14:00 Newhoff’s comments to USCO’s NOI and Request for Comments17:20 compulsory licensing scheme18:50 RightsClick25:45 USCO’s focus on how a work was created (by AI or human) versus leaving that to courts25:55 feedback on his comments to USCO32:00 AI copyright lawsuits in the US36:25 liability for AI training data40:45 Emily Gould: whether training involves making copies, EU exception for copies43:00 whether US copyright is still fit for purpose in light of issues raised by AI44:20 work “in the style of” 48:40 Deborah Roberts vs Lynthia Edwards - suit over collage works52:30 Alan Robertshaw: threshold of infringing work versus transformative work54:50 why use AI to create artwork56:45 NFT hype57:35 the legacy Newhoff hopes to be creating 58:50 Newhoff’s view of justice 1:01:00 status of Allen v. Cooper and Allen’s pending constitutional takings claim1:04:00 camouflage patents1:05:20 change from allowing IP claims against states to decision that Congress does not have that authority and 11th Amendment’s restriction of individuals bringing suit against states controlled Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
67:52 12/17/23
Dr. Samson Munn on Recovering Art by Jacob Mącznik and other School of Paris Artists, Escaping the Burden of Silence Through Dialogue, Citizenship, Israeli PM Netanyahu, the Fraught Concept of Legacy
Cover Image:  Self-Portrait, oil on canvas by Jacob Mącznik. To learn more, please visit the website for Jacob Mącznik, the Lost Art Database page for Mącznik's Still Life with Fish,  The Austrian Encounter and the trailer to The Ghosts of the Third Reich.Show Notes:0:00 Dr. Samson Munn discussing Van Ham art auctionhouse1:45 Munn’s background2:50 history of Holocaust-related dialogue with Dan Bar-On4:00 Children of the Third Reich4:20 Austrian dialogue group 4:35 Ghosts of the Third Reich6:00 second group, The Encounter 7:45 Dan Bar-On’s book Fear and Hope12:00 examples from dialogue groups17:15 Munn’s initial motivation to start dialogue group - emotional responsibility 24:40 Munn’s dialogue work in Northern Ireland27:25 dialogue work with descendants of displaced indigenous peoples28:50 preparation for dialogue group facilitators 32:20 screening individuals for dialogue groups33:45 Israeli, Polish and German citizenship44:30 Jacob Mącznik’s work 1:00:00 Van Ham auctionhouse1:06:00 Parisian archive research1:11:00 Munn’s research of other artists from the Paris School1:12:30 female artists from the Paris School1:14:30 Mącznik catalogue raisonne1:17:00 legacy that Munn is working to create1:19:30 justice1:22:30 Israeli PM NetanyahuPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
85:55 12/3/23
Fair Use and AI - A 2ND Saturday Exploration
Show Notes:0:00 Yelena Khajekian1:30 Warhol v Goldsmith decision by SCOTUS 3:00 USCO NOI’s Question 84:00 Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc., 593 U.S. ___ (2021)4:20 liability question4:45 Emily Gould - fair use6:30 Alan Robertshaw - Warhol court’s focus on use of the work7:50 Khajekian - artists’ perspective on Warhol decision9:00 Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc., 510 U.S. 569 (1994)10:20 confusion of fair use analysis and court’s aesthetic analysis12:00 USCO NOI’s Question about fair use 13:00 Robertshaw - UK’s fair dealing analysis15:50 Gould - big players like Getty 17:45 text and data mining exception20:10 Drawdy - private contracting as a solution21:00 Robertshaw - Getty22:15 Khajekian - conceptual art25:55 Warhol’s 2 Cir decision 26:50 Gould & Khajekian - Richard Prince decision held not fair use27:20 Khajekian - equity issue28:40 Gould - UK courts’ emphasis on purpose, e.g., Stormtrooper helmet case 30:30 Drawdy - amount and substantiality of use31:10 Gould - Australian case about Men at Work’s use of folk song Kookaburra in its pop song Down Under32:20 Robershaw - dispute over Vanilla Ice’s Ice Ice Baby33:00 Ed Sheeran  34:15 Getty case pending in UK35:00 Khajekian - international versus US issues 37:30 Robershaw - test that contemplates level of effort or end result regarding AI output40:30 Gould - risks involved with AI40:50 EU’s application-based approach 41:10 AI for medical applications41:55 detecting forgeries will still require humans, e.g., conflicting AI results regarding Raphael42:50  implicit bias in AI43:15 dogs detecting forgeries 43:40 chickens detecting shapesPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
45:09 11/19/23
Glance at Culture - Martha Szabo's NYC Solo Exhibition & MSeum's Celebration of Unknown Female Artists
Cover art: Martha Szabo, Rooftops in Snow 11, oil on linen, 24 x 35 in., circa 1964 To learn more, please visit the sites for Martha Szabo and MSeum. Show Notes:0:00 Art historian Kathleen Hulser1:30 Journalist Julia Szabo’s motivation to work on Martha Szabo’s body of work4:30 MSeum to be built in the Catskills5:00 National Association of Women in Construction7:50 Justice for unknown female artists11:15 Museum’s mission related to blind and low-vision visitors13:45 Sculpture Robin Antar’s limestone sculpture of Szabo’s “Red Sunset”15:20 Legacy to be created with MSeum includes redefining storage16:45 Visible storage space18:30 Julia Szabo’s parents 19:45 ‘Mother Artist’ field of scholarship20:00 Author Hettie Judah 21:20 Reception for Martha Szabo’s exhibition Up On the Roof22:10 Artist Christina Massey 23:20 Museum’s director Kathleen Hulser24:30 “Up On the Roof” exhibition curated by Hulser26:00 “Incorrigibles” trans media project27:45 MSeum’s creation and mission34:15 Hulser’s scope a MuSeum 36:45 Martha Szabo’s background and how it impacted her work  43:15 Feedback about Martha Szabo’s solo exhibition Up On The Roof: Liberation, Transformation, Celebration49:35 MSeum and exhibitions like “Up On The Roof” role in bringing some historical justice for female creatives 52:10 David Richard Gallery Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
54:31 11/5/23
Glance at Culture - Anna D. Smith shares about Los Angeles Prisoner Artist Donald "C-Note" Hooker
Cover art by Donald "C-Note" Hooker: top image "Cell Time" (2019); bottom image "During the Flood" (2017)To learn more, please visit the sites for Donald "C-Note" Hooker and Art for Redemption.Show Notes:0:00 Anna D. Smith discussing C-Note Hooker’s artwork entitled “During the Flood”1:20 Smith’s background3:15 Smith’s work as a court advocate4:00 Smith’s adoption of son, Emmanuel 4:45 Smith’s contact with artist Donald “C-Note” Hooker5:55 Art for Redemption coffee book6:10 C-Note’s work related to social justice6:45 “During the Flood” aka “Count Time”7:50 California prison built on flood-prone areas 8:45 compensation for incarcerated workers11:00 Smith’s efforts to sell C-Note’s artwork11:45 billboards “Incarceration Nation” and “Look Up Hope and Beauty”12:20 “Colored Girl Warhol”13:20 Billboard events to raise awareness about issues for the individuals in the system, the homeless, parolees 14:10 “Incarceration Nation”14:50 misconceptions about individuals in the system16:45 defining justice and amendment of the 13th Amendment 19:00 power of imagery to impact social awareness about issues with the system20:30 legacy and need for connections21:00 Martin Luther King’s inspiration to love one’s enemies24:00 incarcerated individual who entered contest about rehabilitation 27:00 view of justice for Smith began with her father’s work as teacher of economics to those incarcerated30:30 Vanity Fair article 32:00 importance of the arts in the system Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
34:30 10/15/23
Transforming Vacant Buildings into Art: Social Change with Ernest Chrappah
To learn more and support Vacant to Visual artists, please visit the CityKey website. To reach out and learn more about Ernest Chrappah's work, please visit his website. Show notes:0:00 Ernest Chrappah1:10 Chrappah’s background4:00 Washington DC’s Vacant to Visual program9:00 artists included in the Vacant to Visual program9:50 Nia Keturah Calhoun 11:15 “Ro” Stephenson 12:00 Vacant to Visual NFTs 13:40 feedback from Vacant to Visual program16:20 Vacant to Visual program as a model for other cities18:20 his view on how art can be used to create a more just society 20:45 his defintiion of justice23:15 future work25:30 AI policy28:30 Vacant To Visual Site and Vacant to Visual NFT purchase citePlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
31:27 10/1/23
Glance at Culture - Dr. Christoph Kreutzmüller and Katharina Menschick Discussing the #lastseen Project's Analysis of Nazi Deportation Photographs
To learn more, please visit the website for the #lastseen project. SHOW NOTES:0:00 Katharina Menschick on the response to #lastseen project3:00 Menschick – research associate in Arolsen Archives’ historical research department dealing with digital memory projects, digital archival projects and archival theory3:20 Dr. Christoph Kreutzmüller – historian with Arolsen Archives and House of the Wannsee Conference in Berlin3:45 mission of the #lastseen initiative5:00 missing deportation photographs 6:00 deportation photographs found by American GI and returned during Nuremberg trials7:00 request for deportation photographs7:20 types of deportation photographs 8:30 Eisenach deportation – Magda Katz 9:00 U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum research – donor identified uncle in photograph 11:15 deportation from Dr. Kreutzmüller’s hometown12:30 questions about why photographers took the deportation photos13:00 spectatorship / audience of the photographs14:20 importance of photographs as a historical source14:45 virtual interactive educational resource16:45 German high school pupils’ assistance in developing educational resource18:10 difficulty of discussing bystanders 19:30 photographs invite reflection 22:00 historical transparency by telling what they don’t know 25:00 giving context to photographs 28:30 gaze of those photographed29:15 propaganda film in Warsaw Ghetto30:20 legacy of their work 32:15 definition of justice – striving for fairness33:00 real restoration cannot be achieved34:00 doing justice to the photographs and to those in the photographs34:45 restitution through archives Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
38:19 9/17/23
AI Policy From the UK to the US with Institute of Art and Law's Emily Gould - A 2ND Saturday Conversation
 SHOW NOTES:0:00 Alan Robertshaw1:00 Emily Gould - overview of AI historical development2:30 first phase - 1950s Alan Turing - machines do what they are told3:10 second phase - machine learning creating models using data and develop methods to make decisions / predictions based on that data3:50 third phase - deep learning usually using neural networks to mimic the human brain4:50 GANs - part of third phase that involve generator and discriminator algorithms5:55 Obvious’ Portrait of Edmond de Belamy6:40 Robbie Barrett’s code used by Obvious 8:40 unpredictability in the deep learning phase 9:25 different tests applied to determine if a machine is intelligent9:55 Turing test - machine is intelligent if you can’t tell the difference between responses by a human and a machine10:10 Lovelace test - machine is intelligent if you can’t explain machine’s answer11:20 ‘Alpha Go’ algorithm 13:30 uses of AI14:20 huge training data sets15:50 major risks with AI include copyright 17:10 privacy and data protection17:20 transparency - deep fake17:40 bias amplification18:15 MIT researcher Joy Buolamwini’s work with facial analysis software 19:45 UK’s pro-innovation approach to AI21:45 text and data mining (TDM) exception only for non-commercial use - proposal to expand to commercial use24:25 Nov 2022 government decided not to expand TDM exception to commercial use24:55 UK Pro-innovation Regulation of Technologies Review 26:45 A pro-innovation approach to AI regulation policy paper  - no legislation in the short term, no move to central regulatory body for AI 29:30 AI described in UK white paper as including autonomy and adaptivity 32:25 Global Summit on AI Safety32:45 EU AI Act with risk—based approach - June 2023 signed off by Parliament; final conclusions expected late 2023; operational circa 202636:35 US - AI suits pending37:00 Robbie Barrett 38:00 opt in versus opt out policy39:20 Senate testimony regarding UK’s AI advances40:15 US Task Force on AI Policy proposed; Privacy Consumer Protection Framework40:45 Getty v. Stability AI suits in US and UK41:25 2024 elections and AI 44:00 Alan Robertshaw’s case with Getty 47:05 Gould: AI voice scam48:00 Robertshaw: AI uses50:20 AI medical screening53:00 consciousness56:00 Artist Sofia Crespo’s work with natural history56:30 Lines and Bones by artist Iskra Velitchkova56:50 Dawn Chorus Alexandra Daisy Ginsberg 57:30 projection for how artists in the UK will address AI issues Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
60:16 9/3/23
Glance at Culture - Michael Rohd on Theatre Arts, Social Cohesion, Social-Based Arts Programs and Civic Imagination
To learn more, please visit the sites for Sojourn Theatre, One Nation/One Project, and the Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration exhibition. Cover Photograph: "Rohd co-facilitating an arts convening in Boston this past fall with Nicole Brewer and musicians from Silkroad Ensemble"Show Notes:3:45 Rohd’s background4:50 'Hope is Vital' project in DC area7:00 Sojourn Theatre10:10 2003 disruption in Oregon legislature11:50 'Witness Our Schools' project - role of public education today 14:30 impact of bringing voices in and building relationships for a different kind of dialogue15:15 criteria for success of arts-based work around civic issues 16:10 One Nation / One Project rooted in post-Great Depression Federal Theater project22:15 local community involvement centered on building relationships25:30 approach to critics of social-based arts programs28:10 Center for Performance and Civil Practice (CPCP) - collective of 9 33:45 Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration exhibition with Arizona State University Art Museum Director Miki Garcia (Episode 79)37:45 choreography / dramaturgy for Undoing Time40:20 questions posed in Undoing Time42:10 future project for the cards created from Undoing Time 44:45 aspect of justice included in the question he focuses on: who are we responsible for?47:30 influence of teachers that led Rohd to his current work49:50 legacy 51:30 Co-Lab for Civic Imagination in Montana53:50 ‘Communities of Care’ model54:15 Definition of Civic Imagination - like functional democracyPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
58:03 8/20/23
Attorney, Author and Podcaster Jeremy Richter aka J.W. Judge Discusses His Legal and Writing Practices, Traditional versus Self Publishing, AI and More
To learn more, please visit the websites for Jeremy Richter, J.W. Judge, Scarlet Oak Press and The Write Approach podcast.Show Notes:1:00 Commercial litigation practice with Gordon Rees4:00 Sustainable marketing and branding with writing law blog 5:00 Speaking and presenting at conferences on legal topics5:20 Writing legal non-fiction on case management, client development6:20 2018 ABA published book Building A Better Law Practice, 2019 Self published 2nd and third books Stop Putting Out Fires and Level Up Your Law Practice: The Ultimate Guide to Being a Successful Lawyer 7:40 August 2020 first novel Vulcan Rising8:20 Research for family story from father’s side of family 8:50 Grandfather’s father murdered his estranged wife and himself in 1940 10:45 Research for second novel Seeking Sanctuary in The Zauberi Chronicles set in Germany’s Black Forest14:30 Lawyerpreneur podcast ran from March 2020 to August 202216:50 The Write Approach podcast18:45 Co-host Barbara Hinske 20:00 The Write Approach podcast episode 6: Dovetailing Creative Ideas and Smart Business Decisions with Kevin Tumlinson and reference to AI20:45 AI changes21:50 Chat GPT - rewrite of book blurb22:40 Chat GPT-3 and Chat GPT-423:00 AI’s impact on jobs24:00 AI for book cover ideas24:25 Casual Business with Fairies25:00 5th novel - Castaway meets a murder mystery26:10 Publishing imprint Scarlet Oak Press26:50 Do You Draw Pictures by Becki C. Lee (Author), Walter Jaczkowski (Illustrator)27:35 Should We Shake On It by Becki C. Lee (Author), Walter Jaczkowski (Illustrator)27:50 Mommy Needs a Minute by Claire E. Parsons & Naomi L. Hudson29:00 Traditional publishing31:00 The Write Approach podcast episode 33: From Spicy Romance to Chart-Topping Suspense with Alessandra Torre31:25 Evolution of his business goals and intent for future work32:50 Pursuit of multiple careers34:25 Definition of justice Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
37:36 8/6/23
Glance at Culture - Artist Farook Mohammed on Using Art As A Weapon
Cover art After World War III, 2020, oil on board, 60 cm x 80 cm, by Farook MohammedTo learn more, please visit the website for the Afro Arabian Empire.Show Notes:00:45 Pan-African mission of his artwork that combines the diversity of Africa2:30 artwork to promote brotherhood and unity for Africa and the world 8:00 artwork tells stories that include a focus on identity and gender10:00 childhood12:25 social constructs15:30 power of art16:00 legacy he want to leave18:00 under-population of the world18:40 sustainable development 19:00 examples of his work 22:30 women23:10 Man’s Endeavor25:00 life outside the earth26:30 use of AI 30:30 regulations on use of technology 32:15 transparency about use of AI to create art33:00 Chat GPT34:40 open market 36:20 used Midjourney for ideas 38:20 use of AI for bad reasons39:15 drone technology40:20 Elon Musk40:50 After World War III44:30 claims against S African media houses47:30 Afro Arabian Empire 47:55 group exhibition planned for Mantis Boutique 48:30 Continental Pan-Africa Art Exhibition 49:45 view of justice Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
54:52 7/16/23
NFT Update with Emily Gould - A 2ND Saturday Conversation
To learn more: 18 April 2023 UK Parliament's Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee regarding NFTs and the blockchain,  Emily Gould's correspondence following the hearing on several issues touched on by the Committee; and NFT-related posts on the IAL Blog.Show Notes:1:15 Beeple sold ”Everydays — The First 5000 Days” for $69 million2:45 The Art Basel and UBS Global Art Market Report 3:00 current global art market valued at 67.8 billion3:15 current art-related NFTs valued at $1.5 billion3:50 collectibles-related NFTs valued at 11.8 billion5:00 Parliamentary  committee 5:50 NFT life cycle6:40 NFT defined10:50 Distributed Ledger Technology12:20 Ethereum 14:20 Web 1-315:50 Metaverse 16:50 holograms17:35 stakeholders22:50 resale royalty right24:00 NFTs taken off chain will break royalty under smart contract27:15 Flipkick - NFT authentication service 27:25 Artclear -  NFT authentication service 28:00  blockchain and provenance30:40 fractional ownership31:40 DAOs 32:40 fractional.art 32:55 Artsect Gallery34:50 Copyright infringement 37:00 licensing  37:40 Injective Protocol purchased/burnt Banksy's Morons (White)38:50 Daystorm posted NFT of Basquiat for sale along with IP rights39:30 TM infringement - MetaBirkin NFTs40:30 commercial risks 41:00 NFT platform liability and disclaimers42:00 EU copyright directive 42:25 Soleymani v. Nifty Gateway44:10 UK consumer rights act protection for Soleymani 44:30 illicit activity - theft of NFTs or unauthorized minting of NFTs44:45 ex-OpenSea employee convicted of fraud/money laundering 45:15 Osbourne v Opensea & Tulip Trading Limited v Bitcoin45:30 property status of NFTs 46:00 money laundering46:25 financial risks48:00 tax & estate planning48:15 environmental concerns50:00 Whitworth Gallery’s Ancient of Days 51:10 Vacant-To-Visual Program  52:40  Hirst’s Currency project 54:05 Alan Robertshaw54:30 Currency project results slightly favored physical works over NFT55:45 Hirst’s The Beautiful Paintings project 56:35 international body 57:20 Robershaw 58:40 conflict between smart contracts and natural term licensing1:00:30 Robertshaw 1:01:10 transaction time1:02:20 "trustless" system actually requires trustPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
66:00 7/1/23
Glance at Culture - Cultural Heritage Preservation Lawyers' Committee Fellow Jan Felman on the Cancellation of The Max Stern Düsseldorf to Montreal Art Exhibition
To learn more, please visit the websites for the Max Stern Restitution Project, the HEAR Act, the Second Circuit's decision in Zuckerman v. The Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Zurückgeben Foundation and Almost Lost: the Heinemann Legacy (Before, During, and After the Holocaust).Show Notes:1:30 Max Stern Art Restitution Project 2:30 Dr. Max Stern5:00 Stern’s restitution efforts8:00 Cancellation of The Max Stern Düsseldorf to Montreal Art Exhibition9:50 Sales under duress10:15 Auctions at cut-rate prices as an encouragement to the German people13:15 Rug in the office of Angela Merkel 14:20 Russian exhibition of looted German objects16:00 German Lost Art Foundation 17:00 Mosse Art Research Initiative - partly funded by German Lost Art Foundation18:10 Thieves able to give good title under German law20:40 Hilde Schramm - German politician for Alliance 90/The Greens, daughter of  German architect/Nazi Party official Albert Speer21:20 The Zurückgeben Foundation - organization started by Schramm21:45 City of Lüneburg, Germany honored Jewish Heinemann family whose objects were looted 22:45 Heinemann family donated looted objects back to the Lüneburg Museum23:20 Holocaust Expropriation Art Recovery (HEAR) Act 24:40 Second Circuit decision in Zuckerman v. The Metropolitan Museum of Art25:00 Doctrine of Laches27:40 New focus of research on difficulty of being honest about genocide restitution28:30 Theft of works from Ukrainian museums33:20 Dehumanization as part of genocide34:00 Denial of wrongs committed in genocide35:00 Russia’s prior theft of Ukrainian cultural heritage35:20 World’s tolerance / denial of genocide36:20 Need for empathy36:30 What is a bystander36:50 Spain’s policy as an allegedly neutral party during WWII38:00 Concept of justice38:45 Andrew Smith - The Met’s reasoning 40:45 British Museum’s policy that Elgin Marbles are part of UK heritage42:40 HEAR Act’s legislative intent ignored by the Court43:45 Picasso’s The Actor was a gift to the Met44:20 Vienna case of  painting looted from Alma Mahler (Edvard Munch's "Summer Night at the Beach") restituted in 2001 by Belvedere Museum to Mahler's granddaughter, Marina46:30 Alan Robertshaw - neutral area that serviced U boats47:20 Alan Robertshaw - 1995 abolishment of UK’s market overt - English legal concept from mediaeval times that allowed subsequent ownership of stolen goodsPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
50:05 6/18/23
Environmental Lawyer, King's Counsel and Artist Stephen Tromans Discussing his Golgotha Series on the Russian Invasion of Ukraine, His Practices of Law and Art, and Art's Role In Addressing Injustice
Cover image by Stephen Tromans: Climate Innocence, 1957, oil on board, 20x24 inchesTo view Stephen Tromans' work, please visit Mr. Tromans' website and Instagram as well as Ely Cathedral's feature of his Golgotha series, the Cambridge Drawing Society's discussion of his work and the Gallery Holt.Show Notes:1:30 Troman’s choice to go into law, specifically environmental law2:45 Lord Denning3:30 Troman’s work as a painter4:30 Diploma in oil painting5:00 Influenced by Turner, Caravaggio, Goya5:30 Scotland’s Joan Eardley5:40 Royal Academician Fred Cuming6:30 mixed media and collage6:50 Hong Kong urbanscapes9:20 Golgotha series12:00 Ely Cathedral15:00 feedback from Golgotha series15:45 Ukrainian children and their toys as a focus in Golgotha series18:00 future cathedral venues for Golgotha series18:45 current work20:20 environmentally-related art22:00 Climate Innocence, 1957 - acceptance of pollution23:00 Troman’s process24:00 art’s function to speak to social issues26:00 compliments between legal and creative work28:50 legacy31:30 definition of justice 34:15 how Troman’s artwork speaks to justice35:15 the power of Picasso’s GuernicaPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
37:08 6/4/23
Glance at Culture - Dr. Ashfaq Ishaq on the International Child Art Foundation, the World Children's Festival, the Child Art Magazine and CreativeEmpaths
To learn more, please visit the sites for International Child Art Foundation, World Children's Festival and the International Child Arts Olympiad (with coming plans for the Paris 2024 Olympics ).Show Notes:2:30 children’s creativity 3:30 empathy needed due to moral neutrality of creativity 4:30 adverse childhood experiences 5:20 transgenerational transmission of trauma and hatred6:00  the International Child Art Foundation’s Arts Olympiad and World’s Children Festival8:40 creative-empaths9:30 Arts Olympiad winners at National Mall in Washington, DC for World’s Children Festival11:50 overview of Ishaq’s background and work at World Bank13:10 why adult’s imagination dries up13:30 the fourth grade slump15:40 2013 book “The Creativity Revolution: Reinvent Your Creative Self to Shape the Future and Prosper”17:30 1 of 5 types of creators: Native 17:50 2 of 5 types of creators: Nomad18:20 3 of 5 types of creators: Savant18:55 4 of 5 types of creators: Empathic 19:15 5 of 5 types of creators: Spiritual20:20 Book mixes history, economics and neuroscience22:30 collaborated with National Institute of Health on its ABCD Study24:00 MRI studies show 7-12 year olds are age group most prone to empathy26:20 Healings Art Program began after Asian tsunami 29:10 Peace Through Art Program began after 9/11 attacks31:10 ICAF’s collaboration on treasure hunt book “Xavier Marx and the Missing Masterpieces”32:10 UN General Assembly’s efforts to revive human security campaign35:40 ICAF has had approximately 5 million children participated in Arts Olympiad to date38:30 American Academy of Arts and Sciences’s 2021 report on the attributes, values and skills that come from arts education, including social and emotional development, school engagement and civic and social participation39:15 children from certain countries can’t participate, e.g., North Korea 40:40 participants from African countries41:10 blind musical group from Zimbabwe 41:30 indigenous from New Zealand playing the a traditional dance of that country's Māori people, the haka 42:40 ICAF;s current work and structured lesson plans43:45 fall semester 2023 for next program44:30 summer 2024 for next festival46:30 scholarships47:00 participants from Romania48:30 social function of art50:10 9/11 began his thought about moral neutrality of creativity 53:00 upcoming festival project for partipants to create children’s earth flag for NASA’s first human mission to Mars54:15 UN’s human securities artworks 56:30 new mothers as supporters57:00 ChildArt Magazine58:00 magazine’s theme on the power of words, mindfulness, Metaverse, animal Art59:20 Legacy 1:00:00 pre-WWII, Olympics gave awards for the arts1:00:50 Paris 2024 Olympics and LA 2028 Olympics1:01:45 definition of justicePlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
66:14 5/21/23
Careers in Art & Law - A 2ND Saturday Conversation
Please visit the following links to learn more: Queen Mary’s LLM in Art, Business and Law and the Institute of Art and Law. Show Notes:1:00 Stephanie Drawdy - introduction1:20 Emily Gould - overview of the Institute of Art and Law (IAL)5:20 Gould’s background7:35 careers in art law practice9:35 Janan Foster - background and experience with Art, Business and Law LLM11:35 Chiara Gallo - background and experience with Art, Business and Law LLM15:40 Jane (Chang Yue) Liu - experience with Siena program and internship with IAL18:40 Chelsea Conyers - experience with Siena program and internship with IAL20:35 Gina McKlveen - experience as an artist, law student and now lawyer27:40 Gould on IAL blog28:40 Alan Robertshaw29:10 McKlveen’s beginning interest in art and law30:15 Jerry Alonzo’s experience in the law and arts34:10 Charles Sabba’s experience in the military, law enforcement and the arts43:05 Nnebundo Obi44:45 Charles Sabba45:40 Emily Gould re: interdisciplinary nature of art law cases46:35 Alan Robertshaw’s law practicePlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
52:20 5/7/23
*Bonus* "Exposed" (LP) from Elicit Justice: Conversations Off Grid
"Exposed" musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2023.Cover art: excerpt from Consequence, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.The following are the featured episode excerpts from Warfare of Art and Law:Episode 38: Glance at Culture - Defiant Requiem: Maestro Murry Sidlin on Terezín Concentration Camp, Verdi's Requiem, the Arts & Social JusticeEpisode 27: Nazi Plundered Art: Nathan Diament On the Legacy of Artist J.D. Kirszenbaum (1900-1954)Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
04:11 4/18/23
Glance at Culture - Ukraine War Museum's Milena Chorna Discusses the "Ukraine. Crucifix" Project, Artifacts of War and Russian Imperialism
To learn more, please visit the website for Ukraine's War Museum.Cover photo by Viktor Byshev of the Church of the Nativity of the Holy Virgin in Peremoha that Russians attacked and damaged. Left in the photo is Dr. Yurii Savchuk and right is the clergyman from the Church, Oleksandr Yarmolchyk. Show Notes:1:30 National Museum of the History of Ukraine in the Second World War 2:00 War Museum’s exhibition on 24 February 20222:20 “Forever Free Ukraine” curated by Director General Dr. Yurii Savchuk 4:00 War Museum’s removal of exhibitions on 24 February 20225:20 “Forever Free Ukraine” exhibition now in Lithuania6:00 Ukrainian museum workers are mostly women6:25 Swedish photographer of Polish descent Andrzej Markiewicz volunteered to document areas that were de-occupied 7:00 33 field trips 8:00 Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania9:10 New York exhibition “Ukraine. Crucifix. Tribunal” 9:15 Latvia exhibition “Ukraine. Crucifix. 360” 9:35  message from exhibition “there always should come light”10:00 Dr. Yurii Savchuk 11:00 Designer/Artist Anton Logov11:45 symbols from the Soviet Union12:20 military helmets - star and “Lenin” 12:50 insurgent army 1960s13:15 boots symbol 13:50 star symbol  20:15 motivators for Russians to annihilate Ukrainian cultural heritage 20:20 18th Century Ukrainian philosopher Hryhorii (Gregory) Skovoroda Museum21:15 Russians targeting gold21:30 Kyiv Pechersk Lavra, an 11th-century Orthodox cave monastery complex22:15 Ukrainian established circa 11th C 23:15 Maria Prymachenko-The Ivankiv Historical and Local History Museum24:25 Ukraine Museum Crisis Center 24:25  Ukraine Museum Crisis Center while working for the State Agency of Arts and Artistic Education focusing on developing artistic education 25:00  Luhansk Museum of Local Lore Director Olesya Milovanova 31:15: collaboration 32:15 dealings with Russian museums35:50 “Children…” memorial36:50 “Tree of Life”37:20 Ukrainian Museum of Canada38:00 symbol of doors 38:45 “United for Justice” exhibition 39:20 New York exhibition 39:45 door in exhibition is from  basement in Yahidne 42:00 Crucifixion exhibition includes basement bomb shelter 45:00 “United for Justice” exhibition45:30 justice 47:40 working trip to Holland in March 2023 49:15 Russian civilians are the invaders49:30 Hermitage director who justifies what’s going on should at least be punished by opinions of his colleagues 49:45 Russia in ICOM and UN 50:20 “If Russian Empire collapses - maybe that would be some kind of justice”51:00 artefact from Kherson after it was de-occupied on November 1151:30 flag 52:50 feedback of civilians about exhibition 54:45 feedback of soldiers about exhibition55:40 commemoration days twice per month56:50 mission57:45 message to those outside UkrainePlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
60:47 4/16/23
Dr. Randall Horton on the Collaborative Radical Reversal Project, Mass Incarceration, Reformation and Justice
Cover Image by Diane Allford To learn more, please visit the sites for Randall Horton and Radical Reversal.Show Notes:00:00 Dr. Randall Horton’s work in poetry02:00 Dr. Horton’s work as poet/writer, professor of English at University of New Haven, system-impacted 03:10 Chicago State’s MFA program03:20 Definition of Place by Horton03:30 PhD in Poetry and Poetics from SUNY Albany04:20 poetry avant-garde band Heros of Gang Leaders05:00 Creative Capital proposal to put creative space in the carceral state07:00 Suffolk County House of Corrections in Boston, Massachusetts07:30 Radical Reversal 08:30 pilot program in Burmingham, AL - Jefferson County Youth Detention Center 8:55 Minnesota Prison Writers Workshop with Jennifer Bowen-Hicks9:00 Boston’s Writers Without Margins with Cheryl Buchanan 10:15 Jefferson County Youth Detention Center Director Monique Greer17:20 workshops in Jefferson County Youth Detention Center18:50  Little K - what if you don’t know no beautiful21:00 Little E22:10 Ain’t No Love In the Streets 26:20 art as a guide 28:00 partnering with Greer to continue pilot program31:30 Radical Reversal’s space to stay in place going forward32:30 Minnesota Department of Correction’s unit to have four recording booths34:00 Radical Reading Series34:30 Artist Masego36:50 follow up work with individuals in the facility 37:00 poem entitled Imagine 41:00 collaboration with facility staff42:00 The Road Less Traveled46:30 poem entitled To Live and Die in Burmingham, Alabama published in London49:00  inspired by Nietzsche’s 1887 On the Genealogy of Morality 49:40 going after humanity and a moral compass51:00 legacy created with his work and Radical Reversal Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
57:03 4/2/23
Glance at Culture - Artists' Talk about Upcoming NYC Group Show of Artists Who Work In or Study the Law
To learn more and view their work, please visit the sites for Stefania Salles Bruins, Nnebundo Obi and Geoffrey Stein.0:00 Artist and attorney Geoff Stein describing his collage work2:00 Artist and attorney Stefania Salles Bruins describes genesis of theme for “Portraits As Still Lives” group show3:45 Stephanie Drawdy on her work for the group show5:00 Stein on his perspective on the head as a subject 6:00 Stein on his work in collage9:30 Salles Bruins on symbolism in her work11:40 Stein on letting work speak for itself12:25 Stein on how his work during Iraq war was seen as painting of hostage13:40 Salles Bruins’ experience with instructors at New York Academy of Art14:30 Salomé with Head of John the Baptist inspiration for Salles Bruins16:00 Salles Bruins’ self-portrait mimics Girl With Pearl Earring18:00 projecting and gridding 19:30 Artist and Negel Research Associate Nnebundo Obi on her portrait of her mother 20:30 “Seeing Through My Third Eye” by Obi22:30 Portrait of Obi’s father26:00 Peter Drake’s use of slow dry medium to work in acrylic27:25 “Take the Stinger Out Please” self-portrait copper etching by Obi 29:40 companion copper etching by Obi30:00 Stein on his collage portrait of Liz Cheney33:10 Stein’s website features stop action video of the Cheney portrait in process33:40 portrait of VP Harris34:00 portrait of Pres Biden35:00 use of photographs 39:00 details in the Cheney portrait 39:30 Milton Glaser’s work40:00 Stein’s preference for work that flips between plasticity and graphic flatness 40:30 Obi’s experience with collage41:50 Stein’s thought of collage as pieces of paint42:30 sanding of collage43:30 use of water on Xerox paper 44:00 portrait of Obama 45:00 photograph of newspaper headline of “Voters reject Cheney” from local paper used in Photoshop for use in Cheney portraitPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
46:50 3/19/23
Charles Vincent Sabba, Jr. on Italian Cultural Patrimony, Art Theft, Isabella Stewart Gardner's Collection Practices, the Gardner Heist, the Getty's Failure to Return the Lysippos di Fano and more
Cover art - The Scream, fingerprint ink on police print card done in thumb print, 2" x 1-1/4", 2004 copyright Charles Vincent SabbaThe following are links for Charles Sabba's artwork, blog and articles with La Voce di New York.Show Notes0:00 Sabba’s great-grandfather3:45 retired police captain4:15 duCret School of Art in Plainfield, NJ4:50 1986 - Austrialian Cultural Terrorists stole Weeping Woman by Picasso6:20 NYPD Art Theft Investigator 3:40 US Navy 7:30 Naples, Italy8:35 federal corrections’ witness protection unit11:20 School of Visual Arts 11:40 Betty Thompkins11:44 Andrew Gensel11:45 Anton van Dalen and his show at the PPOW Gallery 12:25 Fred DePalma13:00 influence of his police work on his art14:30 documentary Defending the Peninsula18:00 the era of power and money over cultural patrimony18:40 Napoleon’s looting of Italy 20:30 Monuments Men21:55 1800s Papal Edict governing exportation of works from Italy 22:30 1947 article 9 of Italy’s Constitution 23:50 collection of Gardner Museum 24:35 Vermeer’s The Concert purchased by Gardner26:00 Getty Trust - fight over Euphronios Krater with the Met27:45 Manhattan DA’s office April 2022 seizure28:30 Lysippos di Fano Bronze34:30 agreement to table discussion about return of Lysippos pending Italian court ruling36:45 assertion that the Lysippos is Greek not Italian39:30 status of request for return of Lysippos39:50 History Channel television series Histories Greatest Heists with Pierce Brosnan41:00 paint chips sent to Boston Herald related to Gardner Heist44:00 1997 - William Youngworth negotiated with Gardner Museum for return of stolen works via prosecutors45:45 Chicago-based Expert Walter McCrone determined paint chips were from Rembrandt.48:35 1998 - Vermeer expert 49:10 2003 - Dr. Hubert von Sonnenburg, Chairman of Paintings Conservation at The Met, found chips were consistent with the Vermeer50:00 Dr. Jennifer Mass’ opinion about the Sonnenberg’s opinion on the paint chips 52:30 Sabba’s painting practice reflects his interest in art crime - fingerprint paintings53:50 Sabba’s portraits of individuals involved in art crime 55:25 Art critic Jerry Saltz56:30 Y Gallery58:15 artists that speak to social issues, e.g., prison reform1:01:25 Sophie Calle: Last Seen1:02:05 climate activists’ attacks on soft targets1:06:40 Justice defined1:09:20 LegacyPlease share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.comTo hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.Music by Toulme.To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2024]
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