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Punk Rock HR

Welcome to the Punk Rock HR Podcast, hosted by the influential and unconventional Laurie Ruettimann. This podcast breaks away from the traditional constraints of the HR world to bring you candid and compelling conversations with some of the most disruptive and innovative minds in the business. Each episode, Laurie dives deep into critical topics surrounding the real world of work, exploring the modern workplace's nuances, and challenging the status quo of HR. Guests range from renowned thought leaders, authors, and entrepreneurs to HR professionals and individuals who have reshaped the way we approach work and organizational culture. Punk Rock HR is not your usual HR talk. It’s a blend of insight, wit, and irreverence, aiming to bring a fresh, unfiltered perspective to the challenges and opportunities facing today’s workforce. Whether you’re an HR professional looking to revamp your approach, a leader trying to understand the people side of the business better, or just someone interested in the dynamics of the modern workplace, this podcast is your ticket to engaging discussions and actionable insights. Expect energizing conversations, guests with big ideas, and a punk rock twist, with episodes released every Monday. Follow the Punk Rock HR Podcast to keep your finger on the pulse of work, leadership, and human resources. Your journey towards a more progressive and enlightened workspace starts here!

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278: HR Leadership with Angela Cheng-Cimini
When Laurie first stumbled into the HR world, what struck her was not just the depth of paperwork but the human stories behind each form and policy. On this episode of Punk Rock HR, fast forward several decades, and Laurie is sitting down with Angela Cheng-Cimini, an HR expert with an enviable three-decade portfolio, to share those very tales that have shaped our careers and the field of human resources. Together, we unwrap the evolution of HR from a back-office function to a strategic powerhouse, reflecting on the times we had to stand our ground and the moments that taught us the true value of our professional worth. Workplace dynamics are never static, and this episode peels back the layers on wielding influence without the crutch of rank or authority – a nuanced art in HR. Angela and Laurie swap stories from the trenches, discussing confrontations with workplace bullying and the leaps of faith in self-advocacy that propelled our careers forward. We also delve into how we've seen HR evolve, moving from policy enforcers to holistic partners in business strategy and the critical role of mentoring up-and-coming HR champions. Peering into the crystal ball, Angela and Laurie discuss the future of work, tackling the burning question of whether the traditional nine-to-five is on its last legs. We unravel the implications of a global talent pool, the urgency for flexible work solutions, and the importance of doubling down on DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) initiatives in a world constantly reshaping its social contours. This episode isn't just a walk down memory lane but a rallying cry for innovation in HR practices and an example of the irreplaceable human element in the workplace. In this episode, you will hear: HR's transformation from administrative paperwork to strategic business partnership How HR professionals can exert influence without relying on hierarchical power Standing up against workplace bullying and advocating for self-worth Addressing generational differences in the workplace The urgency to enhance DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) initiatives amid shifting social dynamics The future of work, including the viability of the traditional nine-to-five workweek and the rise of remote work opportunities from a global talent pool The evolution of HR practices and the ongoing need for mentorship in developing strategic HR leaders Social media’s role in shaping employer branding, talent acquisition, and the challenges of fostering authentic dialogue in the digital age Committing to DEI efforts within organizations and “doubling down” despite potential societal and legislative backslides. Resources from this Episode Connect with Angela Cheng-Cimini on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/angela-cheng-cimini-160890a Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
32:33 3/11/24
277: Optionality with Elisa Camahort Page
On this episode of Punk Rock HR, discover the secrets to aligning your career with your personal values as Laurie chats with BlogHer co-founder Elisa Camahort Page. We walk down memory lane, reminiscing about the early internet days that revolutionized communication and fostered female empowerment through blogging. Elisa and Laurie’s conversation is a goldmine for understanding the delicate balance between nurturing a company's growth and adhering to your original mission—even when boardroom battles and investor pressures loom large. Plus, we get the inside scoop on Optionality, Elisa's latest venture with Jory Des Jardines, which reimagines professional communities for those who want to weave their values seamlessly into their work lives. Prepare to explore the evolution of workplace culture, where the gig economy and the Great Resignation have reshaped our expectations for flexibility and meaningful work. Through the lens of Elisa's extensive experience, we discuss the transformation from online arenas full of bots and trolls to intimate sanctuaries crafted within platforms like Substack and Slack. Learn how these digital spaces nurture a new breed of online communities—private, controlled, and rich with engagement. Whether you're a corporate veteran, an HR aficionado, or a solopreneur, this episode is your gateway to understanding and shaping the digital workplace of tomorrow. In this episode, you will hear: Elisa Camahort Page’s reflections on the early internet's role in female empowerment and community building through blogging The balance between company growth and staying true to original missions, even under investor pressures An introduction to Optionality, a venture aimed at redefining work-life integration and aligning careers with personal values Evolving workplace culture and the impact of the gig economy and the Great Resignation on expectations for work flexibility. The transition from public online platforms to private, controlled digital spaces like Substack and Slack The shift towards intimate, engagement-rich communities Elisa's path from corporate tech to media and her desire to build a product with intrinsic value Optionality and its aim to be a community-driven platform that fosters collaboration between workers seeking flexibility and companies adapting to the future of work Resources from this Episode Visit the Optionality website: optionality.life Elisa Camahort Page’s website: elisacp.com  Connect with Elisa on LinkedIn:linkedin.com/in/elisacamahortpage Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
29:10 3/4/24
276: Performance Unlocked with Kevin Brady
Imagine a world where leaders aren’t buried in spreadsheets and are fully present, creating a heartbeat within their organizations through genuine connections. On this episode of Punk Rock HR, that's the future Kevin Brady, a pharmaceutical industry veteran and founder of Performance Unlocked, envisions. Kevin and Laurie examine the inevitable revolution in leadership, where artificial intelligence offloads our analytical burdens, causing leaders to cultivate empathy and forge deeper relationships with their teams. It's a future where algorithms crunch the data, leaving us to master emotional intelligence—a skill set essential for any business to survive and thrive in the rapidly approaching 2030s landscape. As Kevin shares stories from his path, we uncover the soft underbelly of leadership—a place where vulnerability meets strength and where creating a culture of open communication and innovation is paramount. We dissect the repercussions of inadequate leadership and celebrate heart-centric guidance to uncover creativity and drive organizational success. This conversation goes beyond industry boundaries and offers HR professionals and leaders a new perspective. Join us for a session that will challenge your preconceptions of leadership and inspire you to engage with your workforce in a way that leaves a lasting imprint. In this episode, you will hear: Kevin Brady’s thoughts on the evolving role of leadership and the importance of emotional connections in the workplace The impact of poor leadership on personal growth and organizational performance Leaders’ need to balance analytical skills with emotional intelligence post-pandemic Emotional intelligence in leadership as a way to unlock hidden potential and drive innovation The generational shift in workplace expectations, with a focus on the shared human need for purpose, belonging, and feeling valued at work Kevin Brady's new venture, Performance Unlocked, and how it aims to enhance individual and team performance using emotional intelligence and psychological safety The future of leadership where emotional connection with employees becomes the key differentiator Resources from this Episode Visit Performance Unlocked’s website: performanceunlocked.ie Connect with Kevin Brady on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-brady-80b42618 Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
28:34 2/26/24
275: Transform 2024 with Samara Jaffe
Have you ever wondered how to navigate your first big conference without getting lost in the shuffle? On this episode of Punk Rock HR, Laurie teams up with Samara Jaffe, co-founder and general manager of Transform, and Josh Schwede, HR tech guru, to share the insider track for newcomers. It's all about striking the perfect balance between self-care and forging deep connections rather than sprinting through every scheduled event. But there's more to a conference than just showing up. It's about the community and the culture that it grows. Transform, once known as HR Transform, has blossomed into a hub for innovation within the HR industry. Samara is at the heart of it, cultivating a space where executives, leaders, and entrepreneurs can converge to shape the workplace of tomorrow. Through a tapestry of human-centric interactions and even some furry friends, this episode peels back the curtain on how Transform stands out in a sea of professional gatherings. Finally, we’re not shying away from workplace concerns, addressing topics like women's health and sobriety in the workplace. And let's not forget the Transform Awards, a celebration of industry trailblazers that's anything but your average awards ceremony. With practical takeaways for maximizing your conference experience and a sneak peek into the eclectic excitement of Transform 2024, this episode will resonate long after its conclusion. In this episode, you will hear: Expert tips for first-time conference attendees, including comfort, hydration, and prioritizing meaningful interactions over attending every session Transform 2024 as an HR ecosystem fostering innovation, community, and human-first interactions with unique elements Women's health and workplace transformation Upcoming talks on contemporary issues and the Transform Awards that spotlight industry leaders The unconventional Transform 2024 Awards ceremony The future for Transform as it expands to a global community intersecting workforce, healthcare, and education sectors, with potential international events Samara Jaffe on creating impactful connections Josh Schwede on navigating transitions within the HR tech industry Practical advice for conference success Resources from this Episode Visit the Transform website: transform.us/partners/punk-rock-hr-podcast Connect with Samara Jaffe on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/samarajaffe Find Josh Schwede on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/joshschwede Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
31:02 2/19/24
274: Financial Therapy with Aja Evans
Unlock the secrets to a healthier financial and emotional life with Aja Evans, a licensed mental health counselor and financial therapist. This episode of Punk Rock HR is a deep dive into the intricate connection between our financial behaviors and emotional well-being. Aja helps us see beyond the numbers, revealing how trauma can shape our relationship with money and why the advice to “just budget better” is often a superficial solution to a complex issue. Alongside Aja, we examine the growing trend of financial wellness initiatives in the workplace, discussing the role of emotional support in achieving financial literacy. We explore how financial therapy could revolutionize employee well-being programs by integrating emotional intelligence into financial education. Throughout our conversation, we share personal stories and reflections on societal attitudes toward money, acknowledging the deep-seated emotions that come with financial decisions. The path to financial stability is not just about the dollars and cents; it's about personal growth and empowerment. This episode celebrates the victories of those who have emerged from financial hopelessness to a place of confidence and control. We stress the value of community, open dialogue, and fair compensation in fostering a culture of financial empowerment. Join us as we advocate for systemic change and personal transformation and the undeniable impact of financial wellness on bridging wealth gaps and improving lives. In this episode, you will hear: The emotional aspects of financial behaviors and decisions How financial trauma from experiences like job loss or bankruptcy can persist into adulthood and influence financial wellness The trend of financial wellness programs in workplaces Integrating financial therapy to address both financial literacy and emotional support Strategies for managing financial stress, including mindfulness, having a financial plan, and understanding the emotional impact of financial insecurity Success stories of individuals overcoming financial struggles The importance of personal growth and behavioral changes in financial well-being Fostering financial empowerment and bridging wealth gaps with open dialogue, community support, and fair compensation Advocating for systemic change and the value of financial education and emotional intelligence in improving overall life quality Resources from this Episode Visita Aja Evans’s website:  www.ajaevanscounseling.com Connect with Aja on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/ajaevans Find Aja on Instagram: www.instagram.com/ajaetherapy Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
37:24 2/12/24
273: Reimagine Inclusion with Mita Mallick
Receiving a tough piece of feedback can sting, but it can also be the catalyst for phenomenal career growth. On this episode of Punk Rock HR, this revelation sets the stage for Laurie’s discussion with Mita Mallick, a luminary in diversity, equity, and inclusion, whose insights and experiences as a marketer, best-selling author, and mother are reshaping the narrative of today's workplace. Their conversation spans from personal trials in the professional world to the myths that stifle true workplace transformation, offering listeners a chance to reflect on the biases and systemic hurdles that persist in corporate environments. As a storyteller at heart, Mita Mallick dissects how the tales we tell in business can either hinder or advance progress. The episode peels back the layers of diversity and inclusion challenges, addressing head-on the backlash against DEI efforts and the contention between business objectives and social justice. With an eye on the myths that cloud our judgment, from talent assessment to the dynamics of salary negotiation, Laurie and Mita explore the subjective nature of performance evaluations and the importance of debunking misconceptions to establish a more equitable workspace. The episode continues with future-focused contemplation, looking toward the evolving role of HR as a strategic partner in business and the tug-of-war between remote and in-office work spheres. You’ll hear how HR professionals can harness the power of storytelling and deep industry knowledge to become catalysts for true transformation. Don’t miss Mita Mallick's expertise on DEI with this must-listen episode of Punk Rock HR. In this episode, you will hear: The role of tough feedback in career growth How withholding feedback can hinder professional development Mita’s insights on debunking workplace myths that prevent transformation The backlash against DEI efforts and the subjectivity in performance evaluations that contribute to inequity Continuous feedback, the role of affinity bias in hiring, and challenges women face in salary negotiations Storytelling in business as a tool for HR professionals to drive change and align with evolving business landscapes Workplace trends such as remote vs. in-office work and the caregiving crisis Mita Mallick’s journey to the publication of her book “Reimagine Inclusion” Individual initiative in transforming the workplace Resources from this Episode Connect with Mita Mallick on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/mita-mallick-2b165822 Get Mita’s book Reimagine Inclusion: Debunking 13 Myths To Transform Your Workplace: amzn.to/3GBFBvS  Find Mita on Instagram: www.instagram.com/mita_mallick13 Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
31:35 2/5/24
272: HR Technology 2024 with Jason Corsello
Venture capital and HR technology veteran Jason Corsello from Acadian Ventures joins Laurie in an insightful discussion about the rapid integration of artificial intelligence in the workplace. In this episode of Punk Rock HR, Jason and Laurie explore the impact of AI technology on innovation and productivity as it expands within Acadian's portfolio. Their conversation delves into the exciting potential and lurking concerns of AI's role in the future. They debunk the myth of its all-encompassing dominance while underscoring its critical importance in work technology. Jason and Laurie also unravel the complexities of market saturation and the quest for groundbreaking solutions. They spotlight the promise of a new technological supercycle spurred on by AI, while cautiously considering the balance between augmenting workplace efficiency and the pitfalls of an over-reliant and divided economy. The discussion is not just limited to painting pictures of a utopian workplace but also sizing up the real-world implications for HR tech in the years ahead. Finally, Jason and Laurie offer an insider glimpse into the venture capital universe, where the emotional rollercoaster of investing meets the strategic play of identifying unicorn startups. They reflect on the essential skills for tomorrow's workforce and the emergence of a boundaryless talent pool in a world facing demographic shifts, while also sharing the stories of Acadian Ventures' latest fundraising successes. If you're fascinated by the evolving narrative of work tech and the celebration of entrepreneurial spirit, then this conversation is definitely worth a listen. In this episode, you will hear: AI's expanding role in the workforce, including a leap in Acadian's portfolio companies AI as an innovation shaper and becoming a staple across all sectors with a balanced approach that enhances without dominating every aspect of life Venture capital and the importance of luck, judgment, and market timing in identifying successful startups The need for companies to continuously invest in work technology to improve workplace efficiency and address budgetary constraints AI's integration into daily tools Examining innovative AI applications in HR tech, like Perplexity for advanced searches and Tech Wolf for skill inference The challenges of venture capital, including realistic company growth, fiscal responsibility, and the emotional toll of witnessing startup failures The importance of future skills and a global workforce A stagnant population growth's impact on the labor market and the role of global talent in driving innovation Resources from this Episode Visit the Acadian Ventures website: www.acadianventures.com Connect with Jason Corsello on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jasoncorsello Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
37:29 1/29/24
271: Think Faster, Talk Smarter with Matt Abrahams
Have you ever felt tongue-tied or had your mind blank in the middle of a conversation? You're not alone. On this episode of Punk Rock HR, you’ll get strategies to conquer those moments. Laurie’s guest is communication expert Matt Abrahams, who unpacks the essentials of his book Think Faster, Talk Smarter: How to Speak Successfully When You're Put on the Spot. They explore the science of crafting messages that resonate with audiences and the power of speech variation to keep their attention rapt. This isn't just another chat about talking; it's an arsenal of techniques to transform anyone into a communication pro – debunking the myth that you're either born with it or you're not. Matt and Laurie also get real about the sweaty palms and racing hearts that come with high-stakes communication. From revealing HR policies to pitching business ideas to the toughest crowds, Matt shares methods to cope and shine. Controlled breathing, focus grouping, ditching filler words – they cover it all, ensuring you walk away poised to present with confidence. And for those wondering about the fine line between authenticity and performance, they tackle that, too. Plug in and prepare to level up your communication skills – and possibly your entire approach to engaging with others. In this episode, you will hear: Strategies from Think Faster, Talk Smarter for improving engagement by tailoring messages and varying speech Overcoming the myth that effective communication is innate Effective communication is an acquirable skill applicable in various speaking situations Techniques for conveying ideas to skeptical audiences and managing anxiety, like controlled breathing and palm cooling Authenticity in communication How focusing on connecting rather than performing leads to more genuine interactions Exploring the “Talk Smarter” method, a six-step approach that includes mindset shifts and message structuring for spontaneous speaking Practical tips on anxiety management and effective communication, such as focus grouping, removing hedging language, and practicing delivery Listening well by giving pace, space, and grace to fully understand and respond to communication in the moment Resources from this Episode Visit Matt Abrahams’ website: MattAbrahams.com Connect with Matt on LinkedIn:  linkedin.com/in/maabrahams Get Matt’s book: amzn.to/48NKpub Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
30:12 1/22/24
270: Firearms and Security with LaToya “Ladi Ammo” Workman
Ever wonder how a split-second decision could redefine safety in your life? On this episode of Punk Rock HR, LaToya "Ladi Ammo" Workman joins Laurie to unravel the layers of personal security and empowerment, sharing her expertise in managing risk in the digital realm while advocating for physical safety. With her track record as a top-tier cybersecurity professional by day and a personal security instructor by night, LaToya offers unique strategies to fortify our daily lives, from wielding non-lethal self-defense tools to the assertive use of your voice. Breaking barriers is second nature to LaToya, a trailblazer in IT and cybersecurity—an industry where diversity is scarce. Her story is not just about overcoming the odds as a Black woman in tech but about her relentless endeavor to mentor others following her path. Beyond her professional journey, LaToya's Woman with a Weapon initiative is revolutionizing how women approach firearms, equipping them with the skills and knowledge to safely and confidently handle a weapon, all while challenging societal assumptions. As the conversation wraps up, LaToya and Laurie touch upon the essential conversations around responsible gun ownership and the parallels between cybersecurity and personal defense. LaToya's dedication to comprehensive education shines, advocating for readiness and responsibility over fear. Her insights extend to the importance of social media discretion and intuition to navigate potential threats, proving that knowledge is power in the quest to create safer communities. Join us to gain an empowered perspective on personal safety that goes beyond the basics and into the heart of proactive self-defense. In this episode, you will hear: LaToya "Ladi Ammo" Workman’s expertise in situational awareness and non-lethal self-defense tools Her advocation for education in personal and corporate security Overcoming challenges as a Black woman in the male-dominated fields of IT and cybersecurity The creation of Woman with a Weapon to mentor and empower others Situational awareness, responsible social media usage, and a layered defense strategy for both digital and physical safety Firearm safety education for women, along with secure storage The necessity of understanding self-defense laws and insurance The relevance of social engineering in security and LaToya’s experiences with navigating security checks Her vision for Woman with a Weapon to change societal perspectives on firearms, inspire Black women, and promote shooting as a sport and stress reliever The services Woman with a Weapon offers How Woman with a Weapon meets women at their level of experience and provides safe and supportive environments for learning about firearms and personal protection Resources from this Episode Woman with a Weapon website: womanwithaweaponclt.com Connect with LaToya “Ladi Ammo” Workman on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/latoyaworkman Find Woman with a Weapon on Instagram: www.instagram.com/womanwithaweapon Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
36:54 1/15/24
269: Right Kind of Failure with Amy C. Edmondson
Have you ever wondered if failure could be the secret ingredient to success? On this episode of Punk Rock HR, join Laurie as she sits down with the brilliant Dr. Amy C. Edmondson, the Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at Harvard Business School, and explore the essential role of failure in our professional and personal growth. Amy shares her expertise on psychological safety and how it serves as the foundation for innovation, drawing on insights from her new book, "Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing." This episode isn't just about reframing our relationship with failure; it's a roadmap for embracing the missteps that lead us to excellence. With Amy's wealth of knowledge, we discuss the concept of intelligent failure from the scientific labs to the design studios of IDEO, revealing how setbacks can push us toward progress when we learn from them. Through her eyes, we re-examine the heart-wrenching lessons from the Space Shuttle Challenger and Columbia disasters while underscoring the value of listening to those with expertise and the proactive step of conducting pre-mortems in any project. Laurie and Amy wrap up the conversation by examining the paradox of social media as both a platform for professional networking and a potential pitfall for personal productivity. Amy's keen preference for LinkedIn as a tool for professional connections demonstrates the power of digital networks in fostering meaningful exchanges. Tune in to this discussion that will undoubtedly alter how you perceive risk-taking and the bountiful learning that lies within our failures. In this episode, you will hear: Transforming failure into success The importance of psychological safety in the workplace The role of intelligent failures in learning and growth, with examples from Jennifer Heemstra's chemistry lab and IDEO's innovation process Lessons from the Space Shuttle Challenger and Columbia disasters that emphasize listening to experts and the benefits of conducting pre-mortems LinkedIn as a platform for professional networking and its impact on work life Managing the risks of social media engagement The definition of psychological safety and the need to foster an environment where risks are communicated and managed effectively The distinctions between mistakes and failures Intelligent failure as a path to innovation and skill development Humility, curiosity, and situational awareness in handling failure How embracing intelligent failures contributes to overall success Resources from this Episode Get Dr. Amy C. Edmondson’s new book: Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well: amzn.to/3tst8aW  Connect with Amy on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/amycedmondson Visit her website: amycedmondson.com Find Amy on Twitter/X: twitter.com/AmyCEdmondson Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
32:27 1/8/24
268: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Ketamine and Alcohol Use Disorder with Hani El-wafi, MD
On this episode of Corporate Drinker, uncover the potential of ketamine therapy in treating alcohol use disorder and trauma. Laurie’s conversation with Dr. Hani El-wafi, a board-certified psychiatrist and expert in ketamine-assisted psychotherapy, promises to demystify the nature of cravings and addiction, shedding light on Buddhist concepts and exploring mindfulness and nutrition in fostering healing. You will also get a firsthand account of the often daunting world of psychiatric emergency rooms, providing an understanding of how people with addictions seek relief. Feel the difference between a psychedelic and an empathogen as we break down what it's like to experience ketamine in a supportive environment. Dr. El-wafi elucidates the profound relaxation, warmth, and tingling that signifies transitioning from "doing mind" to "being mind." Discover how ketamine can be an instrument for cultivating self-love, acceptance, and trust, and understand the pivotal relationship between one's intention and substance use. Get a glimpse of the transformative healing when someone embarks on ketamine therapy at Transformance Health. We'll explore how Dr. El-wafi's Corporate America experience has influenced his perception of addiction and healing. Together, we'll examine the neuroscience behind neural pathways and learn how to redirect away from harmful thought processes. The corporate drinking culture of New York City comes under scrutiny as we discuss how ketamine-assisted psychotherapy can alleviate underlying feelings of boredom, stress, and worry that often lead to alcohol misuse. We'll also delve into the paradox of using substances to reduce anxiety only to end up more anxious than before. Don't miss this in-depth exploration of alcohol's impact on the brain and how ketamine therapy can be a game changer. In this episode, you will hear: Dr. Hani El-wafi on the use of ketamine therapy in treating alcohol use disorder and trauma and its potential to demystify cravings and addiction The transition from a "doing mind" to a "being mind" during a ketamine experience Dr. El-wafi's perspective of addiction and healing, influenced by his Corporate America experience The impact of corporate drinking culture in New York City The paradox of using substances to reduce anxiety, which often leads to more anxiety The effects of alcohol on the brain, primarily working on the GABA receptor, and how ketamine therapy can alleviate the anxiety caused by alcohol misuse Ketamine therapy at Transformance Health and the need for safety, comfort, and a supportive environment An example of transformative healing through ketamine therapy using the case of a patient re-experiencing and gaining a new perspective on a past traumatic event Resources from this Episode Transformance Health website: www.transformancehealth.com Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
51:28 10/30/23
267: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Conference Drinking with Mary Ellen Slayter
Have you ever found yourself clutching a soda at a conference or corporate event, deflecting questions about your choice of beverage? Has anyone ever guessed if you're pregnant, in recovery, or part of the LDS church? Mary Ellen Slayter, founder and CEO of Rep Cap, knows precisely how you feel. We journey alongside her through the maze of conference lingo, unraveling the intricate ties between work, culture, and alcohol. Together, we navigate the sometimes choppy waters of gender dynamics at these events, where professional boundaries often blur into social ones. But there's more to corporate events than just drinks. We venture into the topic of inclusivity in corporate gatherings, brainstorming ways to accommodate dietary restrictions and promote accessibility. No one should feel left out at a corporate retreat or happy hour, and we're committed to finding solutions. Lastly, we probe the idea of renegotiating our relationship with alcohol, aiming to enhance everyone's experience at these events. Tune in for a deep dive into how we can build cultures of inclusion and belonging in the workplace, alcohol or not. In this episode, you will hear: The role of alcohol in corporate events and the need for more inclusive practices, featuring guest Mary Ellen Slayter, founder and CEO of Rep Cap An analysis of gender dynamics at conferences and the prevalence of alcohol consumption and its effects on professional boundaries How the consumption of alcohol can blur professional and social boundaries, particularly within the Human Resources industry Strategies to make corporate events more inclusive, including catering to dietary restrictions and offering non-alcoholic beverage options The impact of alcohol at corporate retreats and happy hours and the need to make these events accessible to everyone The idea of renegotiating our relationship with alcohol to enhance everyone's experience at work events, promoting a culture of inclusion and belonging Some practical advice on how employees can propose changes to work events to make them more inclusive and the importance of collective action and solution-focused approaches Resources from this Episode Rep Cap’s website: repcap.com Connect with Mary Ellen Slayter on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/maryellenslayter Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
20:00 10/23/23
266: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Corporate Drinking Data with Karina Monesson
Before juggling a demanding career and the joys of motherhood, Karina Monesson—a Senior Manager of Human Insights, Research, and Advisory at UKG—found herself spiraling into the abyss of addiction.  In this episode of Corporate Drinker, Karina candidly recounts her entanglement with alcohol and subsequent recovery to paint a sobering picture of addiction's effects on both personal and professional life. We also tackle the often overlooked motherhood penalty in the workplace and the balancing act of career and family life. As we uncork the bottle on corporate culture’s relationship with alcohol, we confront the challenge of identifying substance use disorders among us. The pandemic's influence on this issue is undeniable, with an alarming surge in alcohol consumption and substance-related deaths. Corporate America's pervading "work hard, play hard" ethos comes under the microscope as we propose ideas for healthier, balanced team-building experiences. We conclude the episode with a frank discussion about the stigma surrounding addiction, its presence in the workplace, and the crucial role of managers in supporting employees battling this silent demon. Pour yourself a cup of coffee and join us as we reveal the often-overlooked ties between work, alcohol, and addiction. In this episode, you will hear: Karina Monesson’s personal journey with alcohol addiction and recovery and how it changed in the light of her career and motherhood The complex relationship between corporate culture and alcohol and the rise of substance use disorder during the pandemic The “work hard, play hard” ethos in Corporate America and the need for healthier team-building experiences that don't revolve around alcohol An analysis of the often overlooked “motherhood penalty” in the workplace and the struggle of balancing career and family life A sobering look at addiction in the workplace, with data showing 75% of those with substance use disorder are full-time employees The stigma and misconceptions around addiction and the importance of managers supporting employees battling addiction An emphasis on fostering a solid manager-employee relationship to open up conversations about addiction and recovery Resources from this Episode Find Karina Monesson on Instagram: www.instagram.com/karina.monesson Connect with Karina on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/karina-monesson Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
30:12 10/16/23
265: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - CEO Perspective on Alcohol with Dr. Ben Yerxa
Join me as I welcome Dr. Ben Yerxa, the CEO of Opus Genetics, into our series on the intersection of alcohol and work culture. Dr. Yerxa brings his vast leadership experience to the table, giving us an invaluable perspective on cultivating a healthy work environment. We delve into the intricate dynamics of alcohol in professional settings, ranging from corporate board dinners to the daily operations of a biotech company, and discuss the importance of mindful drinking. Get ready for a thrilling ride as we explore the complexities of work dynamics, stressful board dinners, and the increasing popularity of alcohol alternatives. Plus, we'll be peeking into Dr. Yerxa's tenure at Inspire where he experienced company culture molded by openness, trust, and timely coaching. This is one episode you don't want to miss - prepare to be both educated and entertained by our conversation with Dr. Ben Yerxa! In this episode, you will hear: The intersection of alcohol and work culture, exploring how alcohol plays a role in professional settings, from boardrooms to biotech companies. Dr. Ben Yerxa shares his experiences managing diverse teams and fostering a healthy work environment, emphasizing the importance of mindful consumption of alcohol. Discussion of corporate board dinners and the potential implications of alcohol consumption in these settings, with Dr. Yerxa advising against overindulgence as a "career-limiting move." Examination of alcohol's role in facilitating professional interactions and relationships in various work settings, including receptions, fundraisers, and networking events. A look at the emerging popularity of alcohol alternatives, such as mocktails, and generational preferences around alcohol consumption. Resources from this Episode Dr. Yerxa’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-yerxa-35665a8  Opus Genetics: https://opusgtx.com/  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
27:24 10/9/23
264: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Lessons Learned with Daniel Chait
The very essence of work, culture, and leadership is in flux. Are you prepared to keep up? Today, Laurie welcomes Daniel Chait, co-founder and CEO of Greenhouse Software, who guides us through this shifting landscape. Daniel uncovers the changing dynamic between employees and corporations in the modern age, emphasizing how remote work opportunities have boosted employee empowerment and self-actualization. He explains how this evolution has transformed the role of a CEO and how leaders can leverage these changes to cultivate a robust organizational culture. As Laurie and Daniel delve deeper into the conversation, we pivot to the role of employee resource groups (ERGs) in shaping a trusting work environment. Daniel passionately asserts the importance of acknowledging ERGs' contributions and the necessity to balance diverse needs within a company.  The conversation takes another turn as Laurie and Daniel venture into the contentious topic of alcohol consumption at Greenhouse. Daniel candidly shares his perspective on building meaningful work friendships amid professional boundaries and his personal journey navigating these intricate terrains.  Tune in for an interesting conversation on the evolving norms of work, leadership, and organizational culture. In this episode, you will hear: How the evolution of remote work has empowered employees and reshaped the role of CEOs The importance of creating a culture that empowers employees to provide valuable feedback and the role of Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) in fostering an environment of trust and open communication The need for recognition for ERG leaders due to the additional work they do to maintain these groups Alcohol’s role in workplace culture at Greenhouse in conjunction with the diverse needs and vulnerabilities of employees Daniel Chait’s personal experience of a misunderstanding around alcohol at a company event that highlights the importance of being aware of the different experiences and struggles of employees Difficult decisions and accommodations needed in creating a company culture that makes all employees feel included and comfortable Setting expectations around behavior at work events, especially when alcohol is involved Resources from this Episode Greenhouse website: greenhouse.io Connect with Daniel Chait on Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/dhchait Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.  
27:17 10/9/23
263: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Addiction and Identity with Dr. Scott Kellogg
On this episode of Corporate Drinker, step into the world of addiction and recovery with Laurie’s guest, Dr. Scott Kellogg, an acclaimed clinical psychologist specializing in addiction. Laurie’s conversation with Dr. Kellogg delves into the fascinating intersection of work, culture, and alcohol, particularly in the current pandemic climate. You'll gain a fresh perspective on how addiction intertwines with identity and how crucial it is to meet people where they are. Dr. Kellogg brings a wealth of experience and understanding from his time as a psychotherapist in the mid-1980s, providing an eye-opening glimpse into the complexities of addiction. Dr. Kellogg offers his expert opinion on the role of identity in addiction recovery. Have you ever wondered how forming a new identity could be the key to recovery? Or perhaps how broadening one's identity could act as a shield against addiction? This episode answers these questions and more, challenging the traditional views on addiction and spurring a thought-provoking conversation on identity transformation. We also tackle the corporate drinking culture and how one can juggle multiple identities. Last but not least, we unravel the intricacies of therapy approaches for addiction. Explore the importance of building relationships, monitoring use, and creating a recovery plan that works. Hear about the somewhat controversial harm reduction dogma and the power of setting boundaries. We also discuss the stages of recovery and the need for an integrative approach. Get ready for a conversation that sparks a new understanding of addiction and how to respond to it in ourselves and others. In this episode, you will hear: The complex relationship between addiction, identity, and recovery, with a focus on work culture and alcohol use during the pandemic The concept of identity in addiction recovery and the suggestion that crafting a new identity can be crucial in overcoming addiction Some different therapy approaches for tackling addiction, including building relationships, monitoring use, and creating a successful recovery plan Dr. Kellogg’s thoughts on managing substance use and the need to optimize benefits while minimizing risks What an "ideal use plan" means The societal perception of addiction as either a sickness or a moral failing and the challenge of identifying the real issues in someone's life The use of contingency management in addiction recovery and offering positive reinforcements for behavior change Laurie and Dr. Kellogg’s discussion on the role of money as a motivator in addiction recovery and how financial incentives can help in managing substance use Resources from this Episode Transformational Chairwork website: transformationalchairwork.com/about/about-scott-kellogg Connect with Dr. Scott Kellogg on Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/scott-kellogg-a7217a5 Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
33:47 10/2/23
262: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Call the Lawyer with Kate Bischoff
Are you aware that your workplace dynamics are being subtly manipulated by alcohol? That's right: from happy hours to casual Fridays, incorporating alcohol into our work culture has profound impacts that we seldom consider.  Join Laurie as she explores this topic with the brilliant Kate Bischoff, a Minneapolis-based employment attorney who offers her unique perspective on the complex relationship between work, culture, and alcohol. They delve into the roles of “optimal” and “sub-optimal” organizations, the power dynamics reinforced by alcohol, and their potential to disrupt inclusion and belonging. Does the thought of handling alcohol consumption in your corporate environment seem complex and challenging? You're not alone. In this episode of Corporate Drinker, we explore the tough but necessary conversation about the expectations of professional behavior when it comes to incorporating alcohol at work. We discuss how HR can take a proactive stance against workplace misconduct and the importance of setting expectations around professional behavior. Drawing on Kate's expertise, we also uncover the impact of the billable-hour culture on employees' substance abuse and the challenges of bringing about a cultural shift.  Tune in and equip yourself with insights and strategies to foster a secure, respectful, and inclusive work environment. In this episode, you will hear: The impact of alcohol on work culture with employment attorney Kate Bischoff, exploring how it can amplify power dynamics, disrupt inclusion, and diminish a sense of belonging The responsibility of HR, the respect we owe to our employees as adults, and the role of Midwestern pragmatism in setting expectations and holding individuals accountable in a corporate environment Unique challenges associated with the billable-hour culture and substance abuse, particularly in professions with easy access to drugs and alcohol How to foster well-being, contentment, and a secure environment in the workplace amid the presence of alcohol The issue of alcohol and professional behavior at corporate events and conferences and the need for setting clear expectations around professional behavior The high rate of substance abuse disorders among lawyers, attributed to the stress and expectations that come with the billable-hour culture Self-reflection and questioning our happiness and satisfaction in our professional and personal lives Resources from this Episode Kate Bischoff’s website: k8bisch.com Connect with Kate on Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/k8bisch Website: laurieruettimann.com Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
26:35 9/25/23
261: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Bamboozled with Ken Makimsy Middleton
Have you ever wondered about the real cost of alcohol in the corporate world?  Brace yourself for an enlightening conversation with Ken Makimsy Middleton, the author of Bamboozled. Laurie and Ken unravel the insidious dangers of alcohol, discussing how it keeps us in a cycle of mediocrity and threatens our professional growth.  Ken opens up about his personal journey, sharing how alcohol, initially a false confidence booster, hindered his progress. They also tackle this complex relationship with alcohol, offering insight into navigating it and breaking free from its chains. Ready to challenge what you think you know about corporate drinking? Laurie and Ken delve into the concept of alcohol consciousness, emphasizing the importance of understanding the trade-offs of drinking. Ken reveals corporations' role in fostering a sobriety culture instead of encouraging team-building activities centered around alcohol. Additionally, they explore the undeniable link between alcohol and sales professionals, uncovering the underlying reasons behind their heavier drinking habits and offering solutions. Ken introduces the MEDS approach (Mechanical Reengineering, Education, Substitutes, and Exercise Commitment), a comprehensive method to abstain from alcohol.  This promises to be a game-changing conversation that will shift how you view alcohol in corporate culture. In this episode, you will hear: Ken Makimsy Middleton’s journey from using alcohol as a false source of confidence to realizing his life was better without it, along with the hidden perils of alcohol in the corporate world The concept of “alcohol consciousness” and advocating for understanding the trade-offs of drinking as a path to healthier choices Corporations’ role in promoting a culture of sobriety instead of building teams around alcohol and the dangers and pitfalls of this normalized practice The history of alcohol and its societal normalization and the compelling case for abstinence The MEDS approach - Mechanical Reengineering, Education, Substitutes, and Exercise Commitment - a comprehensive method to abstain from alcohol An overlooked connection between sales professionals and heavy drinking “Alcohol parables” from Ken’s book, Bamboozled, and how it illustrates the contrasting paths of two individuals, offering readers a tangible understanding of the life-changing benefits of giving up alcohol Resources from this Episode Connect with Ken Makimsy Middleton on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/kenmmiddleton Get a copy of Bamboozled: How Alcohol Makes Fools of Us All - www.amazon.com/Bamboozled-How-Alcohol-Makes-Fools/dp/1954437862 Ken’s website - thebamboozledbook.com/ Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
29:22 9/18/23
260: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Mommy Wine Culture with Celeste Yvonne
Ever wonder how societal pressures and expectations can drive you towards unhealthy coping mechanisms?  On this episode of Corporate Drinker, Laurie’s conversation with Celeste Yvonne, a sober mom advocate, author, and certified recovery coach, will make you rethink the pervasive “mommy wine culture.” Celeste gets candid about her journey of sobriety, five and a half years in the making, and how her experiences in the hustle and bustle of corporate America for 20 years clashed with the harsh realities of motherhood. She also uncovers the often-hidden feelings of despair and shame parents face amid the daily grind. In the throes of anxiety, depression, and the overwhelming pressure of being a stellar mother and a successful corporate employee, Celeste shares how she found herself entangled in problematic drinking. Hear her discuss her rocky transition to motherhood, the lack of postpartum support, and how it led her to self-medicate with alcohol.  Join us as we tackle the societal expectations and gendered stereotypes burdening parents and how Celeste used her ongoing struggles and dedication to sober living as a beacon to guide others. We'll also explore her powerful new book “It's Not About the Wine: The Loaded Truth Behind Mommy Wine Culture” and her thriving online community, the Sober Mom Squad. In this episode, you will hear: Celeste Yvonne’s journey from corporate America to motherhood, including her struggles with the mommy wine culture and her path to sobriety The harsh reality of postpartum depression and anxiety and the lack of support and societal expectations that many mothers face Why she created the Sober Mom Squad, an online community providing support for moms dealing with similar issues The pressure to be both a successful corporate employee and a mother that led to her drinking becoming a problem The societal and gendered stereotypes that contribute to the pressures of parenthood Celeste’s experience transitioning from her corporate career to writing her book “It's Not About the Wine: The Loaded Truth Behind Mommy Wine Culture” The struggles and triumphs inherent to motherhood and the courage to challenge the status quo Resources from this Episode Celeste Yvonne’s website - celesteyvonne.com Find Celeste on Facebook - www.facebook.com/theultimatemomchallenge Connect with Celeste on Instagram - www.instagram.com/theultimatemomchallenge Get a copy of “It’s Not About the Wine: The Loaded Truth Behind Mommy Wine Culture” - amzn.to/45JomDv Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
28:31 9/11/23
259: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Well-Being at Work with Dr. Lipi Roy
Could your choice of drink impact your career, culture, and health?  Join Laurie as we navigate the intricate world of alcohol, work, and culture with her guest, Dr. Lipi Roy. This renowned doctor, writer, international speaker, and media personality is a titan in addiction medicine. She’ll debunk some common misconceptions about alcohol, including the ubiquitous theory surrounding the health benefits of wine. Dr. Roy will also explore the need for businesses, leaders, and HR departments to step up to address addiction and mental health issues in the workplace. We’re challenging traditional norms and perceptions around alcohol in this episode. We explore binge drinking, its prevalence, and the unique challenges women face when it comes to alcohol consumption. With her expansive experience and knowledge, Dr. Roy guides us through different treatment options for alcohol use disorder, from professional counseling to support groups, and highlights the role of medication like Naltrexone and Ozempic.  This is more than just a podcast episode; this is a call for a healthier, more mindful approach to alcohol use within our lives and workplaces. In this episode, you will hear: Dr. Lipi Roy’s experience in addiction medicine and her new company, SITA MED, which addresses addiction and mental health in the workplace Debunking the misconceptions about alcohol, like the supposed health benefits of wine The binge drinking trend, the unique risks women face with alcohol consumption, and COVID-19’s role in escalating these issues Treatment options for alcohol use disorder, including professional counseling and support groups, and the role of medications like Naltrexone and Ozempic The complicated relationship between work, culture, and alcohol and the responsibility of businesses, leaders, and HR departments Binge drinking and how to recognize harmful drinking before addiction takes hold The increasing numbers of alcohol addiction among women and COVID-19’s role in this rise Resources from this Episode SITA Med’s website: sitamedllc.com Find Dr. Lipi Roy on YouTube: www.youtube.com/@DrLipiRoy   Connect with Dr. Roy on Instagram: www.instagram.com/lipiroymd Visit Dr. Roy’s TikTok page: www.tiktok.com/@lipiroymd Find Dr. Roy on Twitter/X: twitter.com/lipiroy Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
35:39 9/4/23
258: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Recovery Mindset with Bryan Wempen
Today, on The Corporate Drinker, Laurie invites you on an extraordinary journey of bravery, resilience, and self-discovery with her guest, Bryan Wempen. With an openness that is at once jarring and inspiring, Bryan translates his personal battles with alcohol addiction into a narrative that brings to light the often unaddressed issue of substance abuse in the corporate world. We dive head-first into the murky waters of his past, tracing the path from his early days of drinking to his arduous journey to recovery, exposing the power of a recovery mindset, self-compassion, and kindness.  Their conversation takes a powerful turn as we dissect the correlation between work culture and alcohol. Through Bryan's eyes, we explore the changing landscape of professional behavior in the age of social media and the increasing visibility of substance abuse. He shares his revelations during recovery meetings and highlights the importance of managing negative emotions and staying committed to the mission for a better, healthier work environment. In the final part of their conversation, Bryan introduces us to his work with CHESS Health and how it fits into his mission to help those in recovery. He talks about his upcoming book, “Fuck My Demons: A Next Chapter in Recovery,” and the role writing played in his journey to self-improvement. His commitment to doing the right thing while caring for himself and his family, along with his perspectives on tolerance, is nothing short of inspirational.  Tune in as we celebrate the power of second chances and the companions who challenge, support, and spur us on our journey to self-discovery and growth. In this episode, you will hear: Bryan Wempen's journey from alcohol addiction to recovery and the impact of work culture on substance abuse The correlation between work culture and alcohol and the increasing visibility of substance abuse due to social media Bryan's experiences and revelations from recovery meetings and why managing negative emotions and committing to a healthier work environment is crucial His work with CHESS Health, aimed at helping individuals in recovery, and his upcoming book “Fuck My Demons: A Next Chapter in Recovery” The power of writing in Bryan's recovery and self-improvement journey Corporate drinking culture and its implications for workplace wellness strategies Bryan Wempen's commitment to tolerance, self-care, and making a positive impact through his work and lifestyle Resources from this Episode Connect with Bryan Wempen on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/bryanwempen  Find Bryan on Twitter: twitter.com/bryanwempen Get Bryan Wempen's Books: amzn.to/3q8zmLn  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
38:57 8/28/23
257: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Substance Misuse in the Workplace with Cheryl Brown Merriwether
What if we told you that the corporate world could be playing a significant role in triggering addiction and mental health issues?  It's time to challenge perceptions and spark meaningful dialogues as we welcome Cheryl Brown Merriwether, Vice President and Executive Director at the International Center for Addiction and Recovery Education. With her experience in HR management, adult education, and lived experience of addiction, we uncover unsettling truths about substance misuse in the workplace and discuss the significant part we can all play in fostering recovery. We tread into contentious territory, examining the reclassification of substance use disorders and how our choice of language can shape the fight against addiction stigma. Cheryl provides insight into the various schools of thought and the transformative power of education in bridging these divides. We also explore the tricky area of workplace culture and its impact on employee mental health - how do businesses strike the right balance between providing support and encroaching on personal boundaries? But it's not all heavy discussion; we also dive headfirst into the adoption of exciting new approaches to tackle mental health and substance use disorders in the workplace. From creating safe spaces through affinity groups and employee resource groups to the pivotal role of data in measuring the success of these initiatives, there's much to be hopeful about. And as Cheryl shares the inspiring stories of Project Opioid and her work with ICARE, we're reminded of the immense potential of interagency partnerships and the vital role of education in making a real, tangible difference.  Tune in for a conversation that challenges, provokes thought, and inspires action. In this episode, you will hear: An in-depth discussion with Cheryl Brown Merriwether, executive director at the International Center for Addiction and Recovery Education, on substance misuse in workplaces, along with her her personal and professional experiences The controversial reclassification of substance use disorders, focusing on the role of language in destigmatizing addiction and the power of education in bridging different viewpoints The impact of workplace culture on managing mental health, including the delicate balance that companies need to strike when offering support without overstepping professional boundaries Some innovative strategies for addressing mental health and substance misuse in professional environments, like establishing affinity groups and employee resource groups The use of data in measuring the efficacy of mental health initiatives in workplaces Project Opioid and ICARE, initiatives that demonstrate the potential of interagency partnerships and the transformative power of education in driving change The evolving language and understanding of substance misuse and mental health and the need for ongoing education and open conversations in the workplace Resources from this Episode International Center for Addiction and Recovery Education: www.icare-aware.org Connect with Cheryl Brown Merriwether on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/cherylbrownmerriwether  Project Opioid: projectopioid.org Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
42:25 8/21/23
256: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Corporate Culture and Drinking with Claude Silver
Ever wondered how to transform workplace dynamics with a heart-centered approach and a dash of courage?  Join us as we reveal these secrets with Claude Silver, the Chief Heart Officer at Vayner X. Claude takes us on a compelling journey, sharing stories from her early days in advertising, where she defied the norms and chose not to participate in strip club-related client meetings. Her reminiscences underscore the essence of authenticity and the richness each of us contributes to our professional spaces. Focusing on the complex landscape of the corporate world, we grapple with striking the right balance between an inclusive atmosphere and promoting self-leadership. This discussion probes corporate responsibilities towards those who choose not to drink and organizations' pivotal role in setting boundaries while fostering teamwork. We also delve into the power of emotional resilience and adopting a heart-centric approach to resolve issues in the workplace. In our conclusion, we muse on the art of achieving success without compromising personal boundaries. Claude and Laurie reflect on finding tranquility and taking time to recharge amidst a bustling lifestyle. We underscore the importance of patience and understanding that success takes time. Summing up, we stress the significance of expressing gratitude, nurturing robust relationships, and the invaluable role of having a dependable support system. Listen in, and enrich yourself with a wealth of wisdom about cultivating a balanced and fulfilling career. In this episode, you will hear: Claude’s reflections on the early days in advertising, where strip clubs were the norm for client meetings, and how she chose a different path The balance of fostering an inclusive environment and self-leadership in the corporate world and considering everyone's experiences, especially those who choose sobriety Corporate responsibility and a heart-centered approach to problem-solving, along with maintaining boundaries and promoting emotional resilience The necessity of setting personal boundaries while striving for success, finding solace, and recharging amidst a busy lifestyle The role of patience and understanding that success takes time and is not an overnight feat The need to balance between socializing and forming authentic connections, along with gratitude, nourishing relationships, and a supportive network Claude's experiences at a super conference promoting empathy, kindness, patience, success, and ambition Resources from this Episode Claude Silver’s website: www.claudesilver.com Connect with Claude on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/casilver Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
23:57 8/14/23
255: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - The Problem with Corporate Happy Hour with Leah Goodridge
Have you ever wondered how unseen forces of elitism might drive the dynamics of your workplace? Join us as we sit down with the remarkable Leah Goodridge, an attorney and city planning commissioner from Brooklyn, New York, who has some thought-provoking insights to share about this very subject. Leah draws our attention to the often-overlooked intersection of work and alcohol and how it contributes to a culture of exclusivity and perpetuates financial insecurity among young professionals. In our conversation with Leah, we venture into the labyrinth of workplace elitism, unearthing its subtle manifestations in after-work drinks, power lunches, and even the pressure to outperform. Further, we dissect the concept of dysfunction bonding, a complex issue where work becomes an escape from personal problems, leading to unhealthy dynamics. We delve into the delicate balance between sharing insights and gossiping and how it can create a sense of inequity. Leah also brings to light the undue pressure on marginalized groups to constantly prove themselves, adding another layer to this intricate matrix.  Prepare for a riveting conversation that promises to broaden your perspective on the reality of workplace dynamics and equity. In this episode, you will hear: Leah Goodridge, a legal warrior advocating for housing justice in Brooklyn, New York, shares her thoughts on the intersection of work and alcohol The hidden nuances of workplace elitism and how it's entangled with after-work drinking and power lunches Uncovering the reality of financial insecurity among young careerists and the unspoken inequities in professional spaces An examination of dysfunction bonding in the workplace and the fine line between gaining insight and fostering gossip The pressures faced by those from marginalized groups in proving their worth at heightened levels How the culture of after-work drinks can perpetuate workplace inequalities and marginalization The role of alcohol in fostering an unhealthy work culture and perpetuating sexual harassment Resources from this Episode Leah Goodridge’s website: www.leahgoodridge.com Find Leah on Twitter:  twitter.com/Leahfrombklyn  Connect with Leah on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/leah-goodridge  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.  
26:09 8/7/23
254: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Mocktails and Bitters with Carly and Ian Blessing
Join me as I chat with Carly and Ian Blessing, founders of the alcohol-free brand “All the Bitter.” They share their candid journey from struggling with alcohol use disorder to launching their innovative brand in the cocktail scene. We explore their experiences working at The French Laundry, how they navigated their path to sobriety, and how they channeled their challenge into an opportunity. Carly and Ian give us an inside look into the world of non-alcoholic bitters, from their kitchen experiments to managing a full-blown commercial operation. We discuss how the pandemic served as a catalyst for their venture and the fascinating process behind the creation of their bitters. Tune in to this episode of Corporate Drinker as Carly and Ian emphasize the importance of a supportive community outside work and share their experiences with AA and online communities. You'll also get to hear about the growth of their family business and the recent addition of Carly's stepdad, Ed, to their team. It's a conversation that unravels a journey of resilience, enterprise, and creativity.  Don't miss out on this inspiring episode as we stir up conversations around sobriety, recovery, and innovation in the cocktail industry! In this episode, you will hear: Carly and Ian’s journey from alcohol use disorder to launching their non-alcoholic bitters brand, “All the Bitter,” influenced by their work experience at the French Laundry The transformation of their kitchen experiments into a full-scale commercial operation, including insights into inventory management and recipe tracking How the pandemic served as a catalyst for the idea of alcohol-free cocktail bitters, leading to the birth of their innovative product Why you need a supportive community on the path to recovery, and Carly and Ian’s experiences with AA and an online community focused on non-alcoholic beverages The growth of the family business and the addition of Ian's stepdad, Ed, to the team The process of alcohol recovery in the restaurant industry A deep dive into the world of non-alcoholic bitters, their creation, and the importance of community-building in the alcohol-free space Resources from this Episode All the Bitter - allthebitter.com  Find All the Bitter on Instagram: instagram.com/allthebitter Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.  
32:16 8/7/23
253: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - Discovering Your Strengths in Sobriety with Jessica Winder
As a host, I’ve had the privilege of discussing many bold and brave stories. Still, this conversation with Jessica Winder, the senior vice president of people at Refine Labs and founder of Hidden Gem Career Coaching, truly resonates deeply. Brace yourselves as Jessica unearths her personal confrontation with alcohol addiction, an unspoken secret in her family tree, and the lifeline she found in her career. We navigate her journey through sobriety and relapse, shedding light on how she used her professional success to mask her struggles. A poignant part of our discussion revolves around Jessica's experiences in the Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) program, where she grappled with feelings of isolation and sought solace in others. Her life took a pivotal turn when she received a DUI, a wake-up call that initiated her sober journey. Jessica also shares insights on how corporations can support sobriety and address historical trauma, a topic often overlooked in corporate conversations.  In the final stages of our conversation, Jessica opens up about how her sobriety has positively impacted her personal and professional life. From strengthening her marriage to reigniting her creative spark, Jessica reveals the unexpected benefits of her recovery. She discusses her new-found passion for journaling, her ambitions for a startup, and her aspiration to author a book. Ending on a hopeful note, Jessica imparts her career coaching philosophy centered around personal resonance over financial gains. This discussion with Jessica Winder is a compelling tale of overcoming personal adversities, reaching professional success, and finding true fulfillment in one's career. In this episode, you will hear: Jessica Winder's struggle with alcohol addiction resulting from unacknowledged addiction issues within her family Her use of professional success as a cover-up for her addiction and proof that she was not struggling with alcoholism Jessica’s feelings of isolation in Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) meetings as often the only black woman in attendance. Her recognition of her problem when she found a meeting for Black people online How a DUI started Jessica’s sober journey, positively impacting her personal and professional life by reigniting her creative spark, strengthening her marriage, and finding a passion for journaling The importance of corporations supporting sobriety and addressing historical trauma in the workplace Jessica's career coaching philosophy based on personal resonance over financial gains, encouraging people to find careers they love Resources from this Episode Hidden Gem Career Coaching: www.hiddengemcareercoaching.com Hidden Gem Career Coaching on Instagram: instagram.com/HiddenGemCC  Connect with Jessica Winder on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jessicadwinder Get Jessica’s book, The Hidden Gem Within: Discovering Your Strengths & Talents for a Fulfilling Career: amzn.to/3pE1MN2 Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.  
28:21 7/31/23
252: Punk Rock HR Presents Corporate Drinker - The Science of Corporate Drinking with Dr. Jared Pelo
Ever wondered about the deep-rooted intersection of alcohol science and corporate culture? In this inaugural episode, I welcome Dr. Jared Pelo, a physician, executive, and entrepreneur who takes us on an insightful journey through the uncharted territories of corporate drinking and its impact on health. His experiences, including an acquisition by Microsoft, have honed his perspective on thriving amidst the complexities of corporate culture and alcohol science.  As the conversation continues, we explore the progression of alcohol abuse and its ever-shifting cultural dynamics. From managing social pressure in a comfortable environment to discussing the health implications of increased alcohol consumption, we pull no punches. Add to this the accelerated narrative around suffering and despair intensified by the pandemic, and you're in for a thought-provoking discussion. Finally, we focus on fostering a workplace culture of help and health. How can corporate wellness programs, government incentives, and social media influences contribute? How can employers empower their employees, and what can individuals do to enhance their work environments? Dr. Pelo and I look honestly at complex problems like racism and gender disparity that may persist beyond our lifetime but are worth our tireless efforts.  Along with Dr. Jared Pelo, let's navigate the labyrinth of corporate drinking together. In this episode, you will hear: The complex relationship between alcohol and corporate culture An exploration of the progression of alcohol abuse and its transformation of acceptance over the years Strategies to navigate social pressures surrounding alcohol and the health risks associated with excessive consumption The impact of the global pandemic on conversations around mental health, suffering, and despair The possibilities of fostering a workplace culture that prioritizes health and assistance A reflection on the persisting issues of racism and gender disparity within the workplace The impacts of alcohol on our health, including damage to organs, disruption of sleep cycles, and increased risk of certain diseases Resources from this Episode Dr. Jared Pelo’s website: jaredpelo.com   Bionic Health: www.bionichealth.com/about     Connect with Dr. Pelo on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jared-pelo-b849026  Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.  
39:02 7/31/23
251: Make Performance Management Sticky With Betterworks’ Andrea Couto and Harini Sridharan
My guests on this episode of Punk Rock HR are both from Betterworks: Andrea Couto, head of solutions engineering and sales readiness, and Harini Sridharan, head of product marketing. We discuss the evolution of performance management into performance enablement, how small businesses can experiment with performance enablement and the role of people analytics in performance. To read the full show notes for this episode, visit:  https://laurieruettimann.com/make-performance-management-sticky 
31:55 6/26/23
250: Showcasing Real-Life Stories of UBI With Conrad Shaw
My guest on this episode of Punk Rock HR is Conrad Shaw. He is a writer, filmmaker, co-founder of Comingle.us and a universal basic income (UBI) researcher. Conrad is a font of wisdom about UBI, and we discuss what it is, how it works, his upcoming documentary series “Bootstraps” and more. To read the full show notes for this episode, visit:  https://laurieruettimann.com/showing-the-real-life-stories-of-ubi 
28:03 6/19/23
249: How Change Unlocks People’s Potential With Carlos Escobar
My guest for this episode of Punk Rock HR is my friend Carlos Escobar, who is a seasoned HR, talent development and change management leader. Tune in as we discuss how Carlos uses change management and design thinking to drive meaningful change, what he expects from AI and his personal philosophy about work. To read the full show notes for this episode, visit:  https://laurieruettimann.com/unlocking-peoples-potential-with-carlos-escobar
25:49 6/12/23