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Ad Chatter

Ad Chatter from Adpulp.com features ad news and know-how, plus interviews with prominent guests from the marketing, media, and advertising industries. Show co-hosts Dan Goldgeier and David Burn make, analyze, teach, and talk about advertising.

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In-house agencies have grown in size and stature over the past 20 years. ECD Kevin Frank was there early on, leaving agency life to lead creative teams at Apple and LinkedIn. Now he’s living an expat life in Paris. In this 39-minute Ad Chatter from AdPulp, Kevin talks with host Dan Goldgeier about:Life at Apple during the passing of Steve JobsHow to lead creative teams and deliver effective feedbackThe importance of relationships to a creative careerEnjoy! 

6/30/24 • 39:23

From small agency CEO to holding company agency CCO, RAPP's Troy Hitch has done a little bit of everything. In this 32-minute Ad Chatter, Troy talks with host Dan Goldgeier about:The “Ego Epiphany” that good Creative Directors should haveWhat holding companies do well – and don’t do well The musical Troy wrote for a casket maker client and an appreciation for “Bathtubs Over Broadway” Enjoy!

6/2/24 • 32:02

We have a returning guest! Host Dan Goldgeier chats with Steve Harrison about his new book, co-written with Dave Dye, “The Howard Gossage Show – and what it can teach you about advertising, fun, fame, and manipulating the media.”In this 29-minute podcast, Dan and Steve chat about:·      What made Howard Gossage’s work so unique·      How Howard became famous along with his clients·      What Howard would be doing today if he were still in advertising Hope you enjoy it!

5/21/24 • 29:02

This episode of Ad Chatter features a conversation between David Burn of Adpulp and artist, writer, gallerist, tour guide, teacher, and activist Chad Rea. Chad has a degree in Advertising from Texas Tech. He taught at UT and ArtCenter College of Design in Pasadena. He worked at famous agencies before starting his own. Over the past five years, he’s been furiously making art and his paintings and artworks continue to appear in solo and group exhibitions. In this vibrant 52-minute discussion, Chad entertains with fresh takes about:Why he went to Texas Tech and how he first got into the ad businessWhat it was like to work at Pyro, Mother, and Kessels KramerFounding and running his agency 86theonions in Venice BeachWhy working in advertising is such an excellent preparation for being an artistWhy it's okay to call yourself an ArtistLockhART House, his home and gallery space in Lockhart, TexasHis major artistic influences and reasons for making artHow to work with him today at Good Fast & CheapWhy it pays to treat yourself and promote yourself like a brandThis is a man with a lot of ideas and almost as many active pursuits. Hear it all on this episode of Ad Chatter. 

12/30/23 • 52:19

In his new book, “Black on Madison Avenue,” Mark Robinson has plenty to say about his career in account management and the current state of minorities in advertising. In this 36-minute Ad Chatter, Mark talks with Dan Goldgeier about:What agencies need to do to increase minority hiringThe keys to successful agency account managementWorking with Spike Lee to create Spike DDBGetting personally sued by a celebrity for an agency business decisionIt’s a fun chat. Check it out!

6/30/23 • 37:04

On this episode of Ad Chatter, host Dan Goldgeier talks about the advantages and challenges of mid-sized independent ad agencies with Steve Red, the President + CCO of Red Tettemer O’Connell & Partners in Philadelphia. Discussion topics included:How a copywriter/art director partnership became a business partnershipHis agency’s “No sh-theads” ruleWhether he’d pitch the Tesla ad account if he had a legit shot at itIt’s a fun, 26-minute podcast.

6/2/23 • 26:33

There’s no guaranteed career path in advertising. And at some point we all need help, mentorship, or just a sympathetic ear. David Burn and Dan Goldgeier talk with Wade Sturdivant, longtime Creative Director and Copywriter and the founder of NowAndThentor, a free service to provide feedback as needed to ad professionals of all kinds.In this 35 minute Ad Chatter, David, Dan, and Wade talk about:The importance of mentors and the lack of agency career developmentWhy creative directors don’t automatically make effective leadersThe difference between agency and in-house creative environments

1/20/23 • 35:08

Many advertising professionals dream of leaving big agency life to start their own shop. Only some follow through with it. Justin Bajan, the co-founder of Richmond’s Familiar Creatures, talks with Dan Goldgeier about running his own shop. They discuss:·      How to make short- and long-term goals·      What accounts wouldn’t be a good fit·      Doing business in a smaller ad market·      How to motivate younger employeesIt’s an informative 30-minute Ad Chatter podcast.

8/24/22 • 30:26

David Esrati is the owner of The Next Wave, an ad agency in Dayton, Ohio. He’s also currently the Democratic nominee for Congress in Ohio’s 10th District. Dan Goldgeier talks with David about the intersection of politics and marketing, along with:How military experience relates to an advertising careerThe commercialization of Memorial Day and other holidaysThe message voters deserve to hear from candidatesHow advertising professionals can get involved in political campaignsFind out more about David's Congressional campaign at electesrati.com.

5/30/22 • 46:21

Research and strategy are the building blocks of successful marketing and advertising efforts, and no one knows it all better than Megan Averell, Founder of The Insight Inn.In this 55 minute Ad Chatter, Megan and host Dan Goldgeier talk about:The importance of going out and talking to consumers “in the wild”How consumers’ attitudes have changed during the pandemicWhy one brand discovered the wrong way to “surprise and delight” customersHow to make focus groups more productiveWhether advertising in the Super Bowl is a good investmentThe easiest way to do research on a limited budget

1/29/22 • 53:55

A new generation of ad pros is getting more vocal about what they’re willing (and not willing) to work on, and how to do their work. Joe Cole is at the intersection of both of those ideas. He’s the Creative Strategist for Clean Creatives and a Creative Recruiter for We Are Rosie.In this 35-minute Ad Chatter episode, Dan Goldgeier talks with Joe about whether fossil fuel advertising could become as verboten as tobacco marketing has been and why other related businesses like banks and gas stations aren’t targets of this effort. Dan and Joe also discuss the We Are Rosie platform, the benefits of not being tied to full-time employment, and what hiring managers are looking for in ad talent today. 

12/6/21 • 34:40

This episode of Ad Chatter features a revealing conversation with Sean Looney of Looney Advertising in Montclair, New Jersey. Sean and his wife Debbie Looney started the agency more than 20 years ago. Today, Looney is one of the industry's fastest-growing agencies in the industry and we ask Sean what his secret is. The short answer is Looney believes in a healthy work-life balance. They also believe in strategic decision-making and solving business problems. Another notable point of difference is Looney's belief in and investment in their own production facilities, where they make branded content and ads on their terms while saving their clients time and money. Ad Chatter co-hosts Dan Goldgeier and David Burn ask about Looney's location 12 miles west of New York City, how they attract and retain talent, why they insist on giving back to the community, how they get clients to slow down, and much more. 

11/3/21 • 48:22

In this episode of Ad Chatter, we hear from special guest Robb Burnham, who is VP and executive creative director at Kruskopf & Company (also known as KC Truth) in Minneapolis. Robb is an art director by trade and an accomplished illustrator and fine artist (known as WACSO). He attended Art Center College of Design in Pasadena and worked for Martin Williams, Fallon, and Carmichael Lynch before joining KC Truth in 2000. "Finding the truth is our mantra," Robb says about KC Truth. He also talks about the value of the agency's "No B.S." approach, and how the agency's Truth Bar—which is part bar and part conference/meeting room—can put clients at ease and get them talking "like real people." Robb provides an interesting perspective on working with clients today, keeping the big idea alive, attracting talent to the agency in a competitive environment, and the need for an outside creative practice that stretches one's creative muscles.  

10/20/21 • 43:26

In this new episode of Ad Chatter, co-hosts Dan Goldgeier and David Burn chat with special guest, Scott Scott Couvillon, CEO and Executive Strategy Director at Trumpet in New Orleans. During this chat, Scott explains what Trumpet means by "Believable Brands" and how brands with purpose consistently outperform their rivals.He also discusses what it's like to run a small creatively-focused agency in New Orleans. Near the end of the episode, Dan asks Scott if he's feeling optimistic. Tune in to hear Scott's answer.

8/17/21 • 33:44

In this new episode of Ad Chatter, co-hosts Dan Goldgeier and David Burn chat with special guest, Maggie Windsor Gross, head of strategy at Deloitte Digital. During this chat, Maggie explains 'BrandWorth', a new tool from her team that helps CMOs make better investments in brand marketing (and explain why it matters to the CFO and CEO)."We believe that brand is a financial asset, not just a marketing asset," Maggie says. "So, everything we measure in 'brand' is to try to prove its efficiency and ability to drive growth."Are metrics, ROI, and measuring the overall impact of brand marketing important to you? If yes, this is your episode. Maggie is an industry leader who is busy making a direct connection between brand investments and bottom-line revenue. 

7/19/21 • 26:48

In this episode, co-hosts Dan Goldgeier, Toby Donaldson, and David Burn chat about new work from Apple and Motel 6, plus a call to action from Rory Sutherland, another virtual Cannes, and the need for creatives to understand cryptocurrency.

6/24/21 • 43:14

This is a special edition of AdChatter where we introduce London-based brand strategist, Toby Donaldson to listeners, plus feature special guest, Silicon Valley entrepreneur Santi Bibiloni.  Santi founded an eCommerce agency in Argentina when he was just 22 years old. The agency grew to be one of Argentina's fastest-growing companies.  Today, Santi is the founder and CEO of COR, a next-generation solution for creative and professional teams that intelligently suggests how to manage projects, teams, and finances. During this conversation, we explore how COR's use of AI can help creative people stop filling out timesheets, remove the guesswork from estimates, and make greater profits. "We are changing the mindset around time tracking. If we don't renegotiate fees, we can not raise salaries," says Santi. 

5/14/21 • 32:33

In this fun, informative, and optimistic episode of Ad Chatter, Dan Goldgeier speaks with featured guest, Deborah Morrison, Ph.D. Morrison is the Carolyn Silva Chambers Distinguished Professor of Advertising at the University of Oregon. She’s also hard at work finishing her new book, “Brave Work in the Age of Climate Change.” Her book takes one of the big topics of our day. Advertising is a business that promotes consumption and resource extraction and has for decades. How do we now shift our mindset to reckon with what we’ve helped to cause? Can advertising agencies do that? Can marketers live in a world of less consumption? Dan and Deborah talk about the implications of climate change on the ad business, plus they discuss how today’s ad students differ from students of 10 or 20 years ago. 

5/3/21 • 44:05

In this episode, Dan Goldgeier and David Burn chat about Georgia's voter suppression laws and how big brands based in ATL like Coca-Cola and Delta are mostly "virtual signaling" in response. We also discuss three new campaigns from Key Bank, Tide, and Nissan:Key Bank's customers weigh their big financial decisions by calling on their former selves. Tide makes efforts to get people to wash their clothes in cold water because it's better for the environment. "The New Nissan" chooses a lane and the lane is "fun."

4/5/21 • 25:21

In this episode, Dan and David chat with John January, Co-CEO of Signal Theory with offices in Kansas City and Wichita. John talks about his background growing up in western Kansas and how he arrived in the position he's in today, co-leading one of the top agencies in KCMO and the midwest.John also shares stories about working through the pandemic and how his teams have adapted well to the challenges.If you are ready to hear from a genuine man and a true leader in the agency services business, this is your episode. Tune in and get 'the juice' right from the source. 

3/14/21 • 49:30

In this new episode of Ad Chatter, co-hosts Dan Goldgeier and David Burn discuss COVID's impact on Super Bowl LV. Three of this season's Super Bowl ads, in particular, get a closer look:1) Pringles 2) Bud Light Seltzer Lemonade3) ChipotleDan and David also discuss Facebook's obscene Q4 earnings. 

2/1/21 • 21:28

In this first Ad Chatter episode of 2021, Dan Goldgeier and David Burn discuss some weighty topics, including:- The TV ad onslaught during the Georgia Senate races- SAG-AFTRA's call for a stop to all production in LA, bringing film and TV to another halt- Many advertisers pull their  budgets in the wake of last week's deadly riot at the US Capitol- Twitter and Facebook finally do their jobs and cancel Don Trump's accounts- Richard Edelman's call for business leaders to lead in this time of crisis- AT&T's CEO minces no words, but has the company also pulled all funding from GOP lawmakers?- The emotional triggers that move people to buy in the first place

1/10/21 • 23:09

In this episode of Ad Chatter, Dan Goldgeier talks with Gary Kroeger about his career experiences from “Saturday Night Live” to working as a Creative Director at an Iowa ad agency. Topics covered include:Chicago as a comedy proving groundThe SNL creative process (and why Larry David struggled there)The critical importance of presentation skills, in-person and virtuallyAdvertising to, and in, the “heartland” of AmericaWhy great Creative Directors should seek to “get fired” every dayHow the Democratic party should compete in red states

12/26/20 • 44:49

In this episode of Ad Chatter, Dan Goldgeier and David Burn discuss three new ad campaigns and a bad case of virtue signaling. The topics covered, include:- KFC's new soap opera on Lifetime is a classic advertising move from the fried chicken people- Alaska Airlines "Safety Dance" flashes back to the 1980s- The Year in Search year-end commercial from Google- The North face refused to sell jackets to a Texas oil and gas company. We ask "why?"

12/19/20 • 17:56

In this episode of Ad Chatter, Dan Goldgeier and David Burn discuss three new ad campaigns. The topics covered, include:- Two new holiday spots from Gym Source and Looney Advertising in Montclair, NJ- LiftMaster takes us back to *Ferris Bueller's Day Off* with the help of actor Alan Ruck (who played Cameron in the 1986 film)- A magnificent new two-minute film from Beats by Dre that puts the problem of racism in America into context in a way that benefits the brand and pushes for progress, all at once

11/15/20 • 16:54

In this episode of Ad Chatter, Dan Goldgeier and David Burn discuss several new ad campaigns. Some of the topics covered, include:- A shout out to our friends at BlackLabelBacon.com- The difference between a Georgia Dawg and a U DUB Dawg- Big John Cornyn's vulgar attack ads against MJ Hegar- Rakuten's "Rocket Man" and the loss of original jingles- The Global Oreo Vault for All Human Kind (sugar highs and endless content holes) #StayPlayful

10/24/20 • 20:42

In this episode of Ad Chatter, Dan Goldgeier and David Burn discuss The Motel 6 incident and the damage being done in Dallas. Some of the points covered, include:- What is an Internal Creative Review?- Does Motel 6 have a moral high ground to stand on?- The problem with not knowing all the facts - Why did the agency tell the client? - UT considers dropping Stan's name from their school of advertising- The culture of passivity and back-channeling- Radio Mercury Award for Motel 6- The overwhelming need for learning how to have sensitive discussions- Plus, bonus coverage of "White House Dogs" from Rob Schwartz and friends

10/16/20 • 21:01

Special guest David Blain, president of Saxton Horne in Sandy, Utah, discusses the lost art of account service and much more. David is a natural storyteller. Tune in to this 30-minute episode to hear David Blain the Ad Magician share:- What it was like to work "24-hours a day" on Intel in the 1990s- His thoughts on new business and selling great work- How his agency's automotive clients continue to sell cars during COVID-19- The need for and power of an in-house agency- The need for agency team members to "really get" what the client is all about- What qualities make for a great client- The raw power of creativity to change the score for a client - How to create a "climate of receptivity" for wild ideas 

10/9/20 • 31:36

In this special edition of Ad Chatter, Dan Goldgeier talks with legendary British Creative Director Steve Harrison. Topics include Steve’s new book, “Can’t Sell Won’t Sell,” groupthink in the ad industry, the difference between the “somewheres” and “anywheres,” where advertising recruits its talent, when it’s right to take on social causes, and why Sir Martin Sorrell might pull a Keith Richards and outlast us all.

9/29/20 • 47:41

In this edition of Ad Chatter, Dan Goldgeier and I discuss:The blight of overworking people in the agency businessRao's Homemade's deceptively simple homemade-looking adadidas and the KC Chiefs' QB Patrick Mahomes connect around Black Lives MatterLenovo Yoga's new product launch and the difficulty of naming projects

9/26/20 • 22:12