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Laying it Out

Stumble through the wacky world of ultimate frisbee alongside hosts Scotti Dempsey and Chelsea Pockets as they reminisce on and discuss the wide range of experiences that come with college ultimate, with advice and laughs along the way.


Nationals Preview - Our Favorite Picks!
Scotti and Pockets discuss the teams (and players) they're excited to root for at the upcoming Club Nationals tournament.
39:45 10/14/2022
THE Mike Ball talks Pro Champs
Scotti is out this week so Pockets sits down with "backup" host Mike Ball to discuss what is involved in running a tournament like Pro Champs.
55:00 09/09/2022
Quarter Life Crisis
Philly Open, Summer League, ESC! OH MY! Scotti and Pockets give a recap of all things frisbee from the month of August. Also, Pockets is 25 now, and having a small mental breakdown about her frisbee future.
40:22 08/26/2022
Wildwood & Dragons
Scotti and Pockets are joined by Ben Korman and Matt Norden to dive into a Wildwood adventure led by dungeon master and fellow Lehigh alumni Gustavo Gravy. The crew wakes up on the beach Sunday morning with no recollection of the night before and has to assemble a team, win Wildwood and of course, beware of the tram car. Bring your dice and join us on the boardwalk to see what adventures await this ragtag group of champions - including listener submitted people, items and obstacles!Find Matt’s environmental news podcast, The Planet Today at
97:04 08/12/2022
Scotti Doesn't Know: World Games
While battling covid, Pockets attempts to explain the differences between Worlds, WUGC, and WUCC to Scotti. The girls also discuss a potential new sport for Ultiworld to cover, NUTDISC!
35:10 07/16/2022
Summertime Madness
Pockets goes to her first club tournament of the year and shares some personal and team updates. Scotti goes to a weekend camping trip with her team and sleeps in a tent for the first time!For the main, P&S review listener-submitted Am I The Asshole? posts and share their opinions on who the wrongful party is.
50:55 06/30/2022
Summertime Sadness: Mini Episode
Have the past couple weeks been brutal or is it just us? Scotti and Pockets reunite to record an episode together and discuss moving, getting covid and roster decisions!Chapters:00:55 Sad life updates 10:00 New Club teams20:51 NY Summer LeagueGet Laying it Out bonus segments and support Ultiworld with a subscription:
27:24 06/16/2022
Heating up with Pockets and ... Dotti Scempsey?
This week Scotti is out and we're joined by her alter ego Dotti Scempsey (aka Sponge). Pockets talks to Sponge about his return to ultimate after taking a break during covid, and how he feels about being a more "casual" ultimate player for the summer. The pair also go over ultimate's hottest (silliest?) takes.
51:13 06/03/2022
Keepin' it 7500
This week Scotti sits down with Ultiworld Head D3 Editor THE Mike Ball to talk about all things D3 Nationals. What are the matchups of the weekend? Who are the players to watch? We’re excited to see the action for the three days In Milwaukee, WI!
46:46 05/20/2022
PS and the Search for the Golden Snitch
Scotti and Pockets break outside the ultimate frisbee community to talk to members of a different niche sport, Quidditch! We sit down with members of the Philadelphia Freedom Quidditch club to discuss how to play the sport and compare the Quidditch and frisbee communities.
41:26 05/09/2022
Fools Fest & Lindsay Soo
After over a year of LiO, it's time to hear from the editor behind the mic, Lindsay Soo! Scotti and Pockets talk with them about the current PUL season, how they prepare for high level ultimate, and the possible future of the league.
42:45 04/07/2022
1 Year of Laying It Out
It’s the one year anniversary of the pod and Pockets and Scotti sit down to reflect on the past year of the podcast, how it’s impacted them and the highs and lows. In other exciting news, Pockets is moving and looking at club teams in the New Jersey area. A year ago, Scotti moved to a new city where she knew no one to break into the ultimate scene. Now that it’s Pockets’ turn, Scotti offers her advice on how she turned strangers into friends and teammates!
50:15 03/24/2022
Spring Cleaning
S&P do a mental spring cleaning exercise by going through their thoughts and feelings from winter frisbee to shake out in the breeze. They also discuss their spring and summer goals and outline the steps they need to take to achieve them.In their weekly discussion of personal frisbee news, Scotti talks about attending her first college ultimate tournament of the year -- No Sleep 'Til Brooklyn. Pockets discusses planning and coaching her first solo practice.
43:35 03/11/2022
Chilly Philly
This week, Scotti and Pockets bundle up and talk about the cold weather we’ve been playing through and the wacky weather we can expect going into March tournaments. From frosted mornings to weirdly warm afternoons which come with muddy fields and wet socks, spring tournament weekends leave every player unsure what to pack and wear. Drawing from their experience at these college tournaments, the girls share their tricks to staying warm and reflect on their own poor choices that left them shivering.
46:31 02/25/2022
Jersey Talk
Scotti and Pockets sit down with Zakk Mabrey of P1 sports to talk about the logistics of running tournaments and owning a jersey design company, while also reminiscing about College Nationals shenanigans.
41:02 02/11/2022
AMA with Scotti and Pockets
This week Scotti and Pockets sit down TOGETHER IN PHILLY (!) to have some fun with an Ask Me Anything for the off-season. The girls look back on some of their formative frisbee moments and answer some fun personal questions as well. How do we handle stress on the field? What are our favorite Natties moments? What's Wawa's frisbee name? Hang out with your favorite podcast hosts and get to know us a little better!
53:22 01/28/2022
Natties Postgame Report
After a trip to Norco, California, and a whirlwind Nationals weekend, Scotti and Pockets return from their respective holiday breaks with life updates to talk winter frisbee, job changes, and debrief on Nationals. Having reported on her first official Ultiworld tournament, Scotti reflects on the friendships she made and lessons she learned in that short time. As a coach, Pockets discusses her goals for the spring and the value of team bonding during away tournaments.
52:02 01/14/2022
The Natties We Know
College Nationals is right around the corner, and Scotti and Pockets are excited to go and report and coach. The girls catch up on what frisbee antics they’ve gotten up to since the Thanksgiving break and offer some advice for first time nationals attendees. This is going to be a fun weekend!
47:22 12/10/2021
Discmemes, Schemes, and Fall League Queens
After a whirlwind weekend of Metro East college regionals, coaching Haverween and playing PADA fall league finals, Scotti and Pockets recap all the frisbee they’ve gotten to play and watch. Additionally, the girls sit down with Calvin Ciorba, who runs @discmemes on Instagram, to talk about his first college season, qualifying for Nationals with Richmond, and his experience starting and running an Instagram account with 33.7K followers. What is the secret behind making hit memes while turning Instagram into a personal business? And how can Scotti and Pockets improve the Laying it Out Instagram? If you don’t already follow Calvin, be sure to check him out at @discmemes on Instagram or
54:09 11/11/2021
Natties for N00bs
While Scotti and Pockets did not make it out to San Diego last weekend, they did religiously watch the live streamed games, tune into the Twitter memes, and cheer on their friends. To weigh in on what actually happened at Nationals, P&S are joined by fellow Lehigh alum and friend Ethan “Pharaoh” Holmgren, who played for AMP this year. Being less than a year out of college himself, Pharaoh fills Scotti and Pockets in on his experience jumping right to the top of club ultimate and finding himself a rookie once again.
51:23 10/29/2021
The Postseason Special!
Regionals is over, and Scotti and Pockets look towards the fall and all the exciting new activities that come with it. Now that the competitive season is over, there are lots of opportunities to have fun, and P&S share some thoughts about the differences between hanging out with your college team and your club team. Both hosts reflect on whether or not they’ve bitten off more than they can chew in terms of fall league, coaching and maintaining a social life. Is this what being an adult is? At the end of the episode, weigh in on Scotti and Pockets’ bet about who will win mixed nationals!
39:05 10/15/2021
The Return of Big Chungus
With the start of fall and a return to college ultimate, Pockets has started coaching a college team herself for the first time. P&S sit down with their former college coach Matt Lubitz to get his tips, tricks, highs, and lows of coaching a college women’s team. Scotti is also making her return to the frisbee field with the start of fall league! With both hosts officially playing frisbee again, Pockets looks forward to Regionals as Scotti is catching up on getting back in shape.
68:59 09/28/2021
Pumpkin Spice Season
The end of August brings back Pumpkin Spice Lattes and, more importantly, the return of college ultimate! Scotti and Pockets offer their advice for recruitment and creating a welcoming environment for this upcoming fall season.
55:00 08/31/2021
Philly Open and Tournament Tips
Scotti and Pockets connect to talk about Pockets' first tournament back at Philly Open, and the highs and lows of playing five games in one day. They also list their favorite tournament must haves and what they love about playing with "real adults."
48:28 08/17/2021
Wildwood, Olympics, Scotti Doesn't Know -- TCT
In a new series "Scotti Doesn't Know," Pockets teaches Scotti things newer ultimate players may not know about the sport or community. In today's episode, we tackle the Triple Crown Tour, what is it, and why does it suck. It's also Olympics time! Learn about the equestrian division from our resident horse girl.
47:09 08/03/2021
SNERM: A Mental Health Talk
This week, Scotti and Pockets sit down with licensed counselor Powell Cucchiella to talk about mental health and athletic performance. Powell shares his personal experience, advice and answers Scotti and Pockets questions about their concerns. Is it a therapy appointment in disguise? You be the judge. To continue the conversation, check out Powell at
47:18 07/20/2021
Laying it Out: How to Draft Summer League Teams
Inspired by a video she saw on the internet, Pockets creates a game to draft the perfect summer league. She's joined by usual co-host Scotti Dempsey and their former Lehigh coach, Matt "Lubes" "10085" "Big Chungus" Lubitz.
63:08 07/07/2021
Laying it Out: Divisions, Decisions
As Scotti gets used to her new home, she tackles the NYC ultimate player's biggest struggle, navigating public transit to get to practice. Scotti and Pockets also sit down with Pockets' boyfriend and owner of "Park Shit", Sponge, to talk about their preferences for mixed vs the men's and women's divisions.
47:40 06/22/2021
Laying it Out: PS and the City
In an ode to Carrie Bradshaw, New York City, and hot girl summer, Scotti and Pockets discuss the ways that ultimate frisbee has impacted their dating lives. They also talk about the return of horny frisbee twitter, and the idea of a frisbee dating app. In the theme of dating apps, Scotti’s frisbee Tinder account experiment was deemed a success for P&S to read and rank the ultimate pickup lines Scotti received.
56:33 06/08/2021
Laying it Out: I Believe in B Teams
Scotti and Pockets sit down with old friends and Lehigh Gravity 2020 head captains Jazzy Jazz Scalliwags and Wendy Wabbit to talk about general captaining advice as well as the daunting task of splitting their college team into an A and B team program for the first time.Also, catch up with our pair of Ultiworld zillennials as Scotti preps for graduation and moving to NYC and Pockets... talks about living in her car?
62:37 05/25/2021