Adapting to hearing loss can be overwhelming no matter how you got here--suddenly or progressively. Hearing Loss LIVE! wants to help you take control of your hearing loss. Because we know that when you do, you will live more fully with fewer limits. We can help improve your communication obstacles in your day to day life. We at Hearing Loss LIVE! have about 100 years of experience between us in hearing loss. We have been at the very bottom of hearing loss, the very top and everything in between. Our past experience is based on mentoring others through other hearing loss organizations. Julia helped people with access to CART/live captioning, Chelle as a Hard of Hearing Assistant and later as Specialist for Utah for a number of years and Michele offering peer support and presenting to organizations and agencies on navigating the world with a hearing loss. For those with hearing loss and their families: We share knowledge, strategies and technology tips to smooth out the journey. We have 1 on 1 peer mentoring or group sessions for the Hard of Hearing and/or family and friends. Hearing loss is a communication disorder and small adjustments to communication habits for both sides can make a difference. Businesses, agencies and organizations: One in five people have a hearing loss, you’re seeing them everyday. How well are you serving them? Are you clear on the communication needs for the Hard of Hearing or do you confuse them with that of the Deaf Community? We offer consultation to clear up misconceptions and myths. If you would like a written transcript please contact: info@hearinglosslive.com
We sat down with Rachel Barber and talked about how being #HardofHearing and a family #Caregiver led her to open her business: Living 4 Moments. Rachel helps #AssistedLiving facilities have better #Communication & participation with their clients.Show notes:Living 4 Momentshttps://living4moments.com/Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
9/5/24 • 20:46
#HearingLoss is hard. #Lipreading is not natural but we all do it to some degree. Once you learn the strategies behind better #Speechreading (another name for lipreading), then you are ready to learn the lip shapes. We have four classes built to help our #HardOfHearing community and as always, a Buy One Get One #BOGO offer because we all need to get in the KNOW!Learning more about lipreading: hearinglosslive.com/lipreading-classesSupport the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
8/22/24 • 05:38
Are you getting ready to head back to school? If you're #HardofHearing make sure you check out your #Disability office and all the #Accommodations they have to help you with your #CollegeLifeSupport the Show.Visit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
8/8/24 • 05:32
#Tokenism is a concern to those of us with #HearingLoss. What is tokenism? It's a symbolic effort to be inclusive. Listen to our examples here and then go to our blog for another example. https://hearinglosslive.com/hearing-loss-technology-improvements/Find a transcript of this podcast on our BuzzSprout site:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
7/25/24 • 06:00
#HearingAids and beaches are a concern for many with #HearingLoss. Be #HardofHearing friendly and enjoy the beach using many other strategies to help alleviate struggles of communication.Here's our accompanying blog posts to this subject:https://hearinglosslive.com/gestures-sign-language/Find a transcript to this podcast on our BuzzSprout site:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
7/11/24 • 05:24
Let's face it traveling in cars with #HearingLoss is challenging. In this short, Chelle and Julia talk about their adventures and devices they have tried to have better communication while traveling.Find a transcript to this podcast on our BuzzSprout site:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
7/4/24 • 05:53
Don't just check a box to show your public venue is accessible and call it good. Get with the community and be open to more accommodations.#HearingLoss #HearingAids #AssistiveListening #CaptionsVisit our BuzzSprout site for a transcript of the podcast:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
6/20/24 • 06:23
Are you in or out? This is a strategy to save your energy, with hearing loss. Conserving energy with hearing loss is a must. It takes a lot of energy to piece together conversation. We also have to decide whether we are in our out when it comes to self advocacy. Visit our BuzzSprout site for a transcript of this podcast:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/#HearingLoss #SelfAdvocacy #HearingLossStrategies #HearingLossLIVE Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
6/6/24 • 05:24
#Captions are a must in #Classroom settings for Chelle Wyatt of @hearinglosslive But what do you do when the schedule has a mix up. It's part of our #Resilience with #HearingLossRead our post on Resilience: https://hearinglosslive.com/resilience-hearing-loss/Go to our BuzzSprout site for a transcript of this podcast:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
5/30/24 • 06:13
There are many faces to resilience and not all of them can be pretty. Sometimes we just have to blow that wall up!#HardofHearing #HearingAids #CochlearImplansSupport the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
5/23/24 • 16:46
Who are we with hearing loss? We aren't hearing and we aren't Deaf. Hearing loss is so sneaky we don't feel like we belong anywhere. We are an imposter in both worlds.Read our blog post on Imposter Syndrome here:https://hearinglosslive.com/imposter-syndrome-hearing-loss/Find a transcript on this podcast at our BuzzSprout site:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/#ImposterSyndrome #ImpostorSyndrome #HearingLoss #HardOfHearing #HearingLossLIVE Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
5/16/24 • 06:15
Do we experience ableism in regards to hearing loss? You bet and we talk about it here. Ableism definition: “Ableism is the discrimination of and social prejudice against people with disabilities based on the belief that typical abilities are superior. At its heart, ableism is rooted in the assumption that disabled people require ‘fixing’ and defines people by their disability.”Read more in our post on Ableism: https://hearinglosslive.com/ableism-hearing-loss/For a transcript of this podcast, see our BuzzSprout site:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
4/21/24 • 06:55
Who are we with hearing loss? We examine our own crisis modes with respect to hearing loss and how we handled them. We share why it's important for all to take the time needed to overcome the new obstacles with with hearing loss.Read our post on Identity Crisis:https://hearinglosslive.com/hearing-loss-identity-crisis/For a transcript of this podcast, go to our BuzzSprout site:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
4/18/24 • 22:14
What is incidental hearing? Being able to pick up on side conversations. In this episode we share some experiences of others, as well as our own, on what we learned while talking about incidental hearing. How hearing loss technology may or may not help. Also, how the Hard of Hearing can navigate the loss of Incidental Hearing Thank you Rachel Barber of living4moments.com who shared an experience last month that fits right into this month as well. Hearing loss does not discriminate. It's always nice to connect to others who help spread hearing loss awareness of communication needs.Read our post on Incidental Hearing here:https://hearinglosslive.com/incidental-hearing/For a transcript of this podcast, go to our BuzzSprout site:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/#podcast #HearingLoss #IncidentalHearing #IncidentalLearning #HearingLossLIVE Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
3/21/24 • 25:23
Hearing and understanding are two different things. With hearing loss, we hear sound but may not be able to understand it, or where the sound came from. Let's stop the "what"! Let's work on better understanding of hearing loss for all!Read our post on Hearing vs Understanding:https://hearinglosslive.com/hearing-vs-understanding/For a transcript of this post, go to our BuzzSprout site:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/#HearingVsUnderstanding #HearingLoss #What #Communication #HearingLossLIVE #podcastSupport the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
2/22/24 • 19:28
#Toastmasters #Confidence #Speech #HearingLoss #HardofHearing #CochlearImplant #HearingAids #OnlineThis month @hearinglosslive is all about confidence. What better way to build it than public speaking. Toastmasters has been a long time platform built to help you with that. But what if you have hearing loss? How do you access this type of platform. Well meet Harry Wolfe, long time Toastmaster advocate who found a way to make Toastmasters inclusive to those with hearing loss. Find out why he says: "This is not a Toastmasters for hearing loss. This is a Toastmaster that includes everyone."Find out more on how this online speaking platform can help you find your voice with hearing loss.Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
1/25/24 • 21:48
Join us at Hearing Loss LIVE! for 2024. We have many free and low cost workshops, classes, and workbook packages.Spread the Cheer and let people know we are here!Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
12/21/23 • 06:46
@BuyMeaCoffee is great place to reach out to us! Help us make our events as free as possibly by:- Buy a #Scholarship for someone to use in our #Lipreading #classes - Buy your #HardofHearing #Friend or #Family as a #Gift this #Holiday Season- #Subscribe, #Like and #Share our #Blogs, #Podcasts and #Content.Help us make 2024 even bigger by #Joining us today!Thanks!Hearing Loss LIVE!Support the Show.Visit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
11/23/23 • 08:02
Here's an early happy 🦃day! May your family be helpful and your friendsgiving eventful. And your black friday full of exciting buys. Like one of Hearing Loss LIVE! classes or hearing loss communication packages. Get your 2023 pricing today: hearinglosslive.com#HearingLoss #HardofHearing #BlackFriday #Thanksgiving #HearingAids #HearingTechnology Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
11/22/23 • 00:36
Get the most out of your upcoming holidays with #Friends and #Family. #HearingLoss technology has come a long way! Find out all the programs and #Apps available to use with hearing loss.Read our post too! This one on technology in general:https://hearinglosslive.com/hearing-loss-the-holidays-using-assistive-technology/This one explains remote mics for hearing aids:https://hearinglosslive.com/hearing-aids-cochlear-implants-remote-microphone-technology/For a transcript of this podcast, go to our BuzzSprout site:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/#HearingLossTechnology #AssistiveListening #AppsForHearingLoss #HearingLossLIVESupport the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
11/16/23 • 22:06
With hearing loss comes certain limits. Hearing aids and cochlear implants have limits. We bump up against limits, learn about them and then figure out a way around them. Let's talk about limits and how they can actually help us. Hearing partners will learn a few things too! Visit our post on this subject:https://hearinglosslive.com/hearing-loss-limits/Get our workbook on this topic which comes with an exclusive podcast.https://hearinglosslive.com/events/For a transcript of this podcast, go to our BuzzSprout site:https://hearinglosslivepodcast.buzzsprout.com/Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
10/19/23 • 19:36
@hearinglosslive149 We take a look back at all we learned about the different #Accommodations we have to help us with our #HearingLoss. Join us for LIVE #Workshops #Classes and our prerecorded material: hearinglosslive.comSupport the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
9/22/23 • 19:00
There is so much more to lipreading than lip shapes. That's why we here at Hearing Loss LIVE! created Lipreading Concepts, a class that teaches people how to set their stage for better communication. Gestures and Body Language play an important part for communication. It's so important we dedicate an entire lesson to it in our Lipreading Concepts class.Basic American Sign Language can help as well. We are not ASL professionals but if you would like to become more fluent in ASL, drop us a line and we can hook you up with ASL Classes.Read our post on Gestures and Sign:https://hearinglosslive.com/gestures-sign-language/Get our workbook on Gestures and Sign, with an exclusive podcast here:https://hearinglosslive.com/events/Get our Lipreading Concepts (strategies) class on video now to improve your communication. https://hearinglosslive.com/lipreading-classes/#LipreadingClass #Speechreading #Communication #HearingLoss #HardOfHearing #Gestures #HearingLossLIVESupport the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
8/24/23 • 21:06
Finding tribe is a "you too!" moment for those of us with hearing loss. Finding meetings and socials with others helps us grow learn and spread knowledge.Have you been to a hearing loss convention? Well get out the travel map and let's get in the KNOW together.Check out our newest line of product at: Hearing Loss LIVE!Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
6/22/23 • 20:23
Summer time and vacation. Are hearing loss conventions on your bucketlist? If not they should be! We get lots of support locally from our state chapters- if you have one- and we have great online forums too! But there is something magical when we gather together in mass! We learn new strategies. We get reminded of old strategies. We find confidence and friendship. And lots and lots of laughter.And sometimes we find cowbells!Join us as we talk about what a hearing loss convention means to us! Watch for our matching workbook so you can plan your summer bucketlist today!Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
6/15/23 • 16:38
Chelle and Julia like to follow up at the end of the month a talk about what they learned from their topic of the month. And Inclusion had us learning tons.Inclusion is figuratively a "seat at the table." That table can be- your dining room table.- zoom - conference tableInclusion happens but can still cause exclusion at:-home- family gathering- work- public venuesWe talk through it all. June 6th at 6 pm MT (adjust for your time zone) we will have Tribe Talk. Come and let's just talk. - What are you doing this summer?- What do you want to see more of from Hearing Loss LIVE?- What happening with you and your hearing loss, that you want to tell others about?Register today and bring it all: hearinglosslive.com Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
5/18/23 • 24:44
Find out what Chelle and Julia discovered this month on this month's hearing loss journey, where we explore how to get our hearing partners in the know!We actively encourage others to be proactive with hearing loss truth. You're partners are your support system in this journey. Don't let them manage your hearing loss. Let them be your hearing partner.Join us May 2nd, 6pm MT for our live workshop Hearing Loss and Inclusion.hearinglosslive.comSupport the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
4/20/23 • 15:34
We like to close each month with a short on what we learned. This month our Let's Talk Tuesday was a gold mine! Be Present as brought to us by Cynthia Greenfield. It is the root of setting communication boundaries that will stick.Join us next month when we bring in the role our hearing partners play. Sign up today at Hearing Loss LIVE!Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
3/23/23 • 15:59
Are you looking for lipreading classes that are with live instructors? Are you looking to learn why some people are easier for you to lipread than others?Maybe you just want to improve your communication outcomes.Hearing Loss LIVE! offers two classes that does all this and more. We have one more set of classes before summer break so don't wait join today. Our classes offer:- Live instructors- Better overall communicaton outcomes- Live students from all over - Humor and How to for every day with hearing lossWhether your a hearing partner, new to hearing loss, or old pro at lipreading these classes are built for you. Need CEUs? Ask us how info@hearinglosslive.comSupport the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
3/9/23 • 07:55
Support the showVisit our website at hearinglosslive.comFollow us on social media: Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and Twitter.Sign up for our twice a month e-newsletter on the main page of our website to get more insights into our topics, get specials on our Lipreading classes and learn new strategies and/or technology.Did you like this episode? Did it help you? Give us a high $5 through PayPal on our website. We appreciate the support and knowing we made a difference.
2/24/23 • 24:44