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Each month, Anne-Marie Pham, CEO of the Canadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion interviews a leader who is a making a difference in Canada in the field of diversity, inclusion, and equity. Over the course of a year, you will hear from an eclectic group of people who inspire change.

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Season 3, Episode 3 | Guest: Shari Graydon
In honour of International Women’s Day, we’re using today’s conversation to take a closer look at women’s rights, and what is being done to elevate women’s voices from all over Canada.Joining us in today's episode of Leader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham is Shari Graydon, an award-winning author, speaker, print and broadcast columnist, and advocate for women’s rights. She is also the founder of Informed Opinions, a social mission project that seeks to amplify the voices of women and gender-diverse people to ensure that their experiences and insights help shape a more equitable and inclusive Canada.In today's conversation with Shari, we delve into the current state of the media landscape in Canada, the progress that has been made in terms of gender, diversity, and representation, and what still needs to change. She tells us about the various initiatives that Informed Opinions have undertaken, their impact on women's lives and the conditions that motivated them to step into the political sphere. Shari also shares her recommendations for the media on how to improve gender equality, along with her advice to organizations on how to foster gender equality in the workplace. Be sure to tune in to hear all of Shari's thought-provoking insights, the urgent work being done by Informed Opinions, and much more!Key points from this episode:Taking a moment to honour International Women’s Day.Introducing today’s guest Shari Graydon, founder of Informed Opinions.Shari’s hopes for the future of gender equality.The experiences that led to her becoming a fierce advocate for gender equality.Examining the difference between equality and equity through a gender lens.Reflections on the media landscape in Canada concerning diversity, gender, and representation; the progress that’s been made, and what still needs to change.Details on the Gender Gap Tracker: its benefits and shortcomings.The mission behind Shari’s organization, Informed Opinions, and the work that they do.An overview of their new campaign, Balance the Power, and how you can get involved.Examples of how women’s lives have been changed by Informed Opinions.Helping women step out of imposter syndrome, and why you don’t have to be “the best candidate” to share your informed opinion.Shari’s recommendations for the media on trying to improve gender equality.Advice on how organizations can improve gender equality in the workplace.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Shari GraydonShari Graydon on LinkedInShari Graydon on XInformed OpinionsGender Gap TrackerEqual VoiceBalance the PowerCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
43:27 3/8/24
Season 3, Episode 2 | Guest: Nketti Johnston-Taylor | Sponsored by Reliance Home Comfort
Getting a job is proving difficult for many who have immigrated to Canada, even for those professionally qualified. More needs to be done to ensure that new and immigrant professionals are given a platform to earn their keep, and the more diverse, equitable, and inclusive those environments are, the better!In observation of Black History Month, and to help us dive deeper into this topic, we are joined by Nketti Johnston-Taylor for our new podcast episode of Leader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham. Nketti is the executive director of the Calgary Region Immigrant Employment Council (CRIEC), an organization that connects newcomer professionals to strategies that will lead to successful employment outcomes. After taking a brief look at the history of her home city of Calgary, we learn about her immigration story, how it ties into her professional background, and everything there is to know about CRIEC and the work that they do.We discuss Nketti’s mindset during the early years of her immigration and her assessment of the cultural barriers that prevent immigrants from finding work in Canada. She also shares her advice for employers to create more hospitable workplaces, as well as some tips for international professionals on how to find work in a new country. Tune in for all this and more!A huge 'thank you!' to Reliance Home Comfort for sponsoring this episode!Key Points From This Episode:A brief look at the cultural history of Calgary.Dr. Nketti Johnston-Taylor's background and immigration story.Her mindset during her first few years of assimilating into Canadian culture.Why she struggled to find a sense of belonging when she first moved to Calgary. The systemic and cultural barriers that prevent qualified immigrants from finding work. What Canada can do to better support newcomers and internationally-trained professionals.Insight into CRIEC and its various initiatives. Tips for international professionals who are struggling to find work in Canada.Advice for employers to create more diverse, equitable, and inclusive workplaces. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Nketti Johnston-Taylor on LinkedInNketti Johnston-Taylor on XNketti Johnston-Taylor on InstagramCRIECMaking ChangesPrairie Centre for Excellence in MentoringCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
45:13 2/27/24
Season 3, Episode 1 | Guest: Normand St-Gelais
What does it take to transform a company from having virtually no diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) to implementing a comprehensive strategy that spans the entire organization?To help us answer this question, we are joined by Normand St-Gelais for the first episode of season 3 of CCDI’s podcast, Leader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham. Normand is Director of Corporate Responsibility at Sodexo, a dedicated long-term CCDI Founding Employer Partner. For Sodexo in Canada, his role encompasses Diversity and Inclusion, Sustainability, and overseeing their Stop Hunger Foundation.We sit down with Normand to discuss his career at Sodexo, the company’s transformative journey on diversity, equity, and inclusion, and how they went from virtually no DEI strategy to establishing six well-thought-out resource groups that play an invaluable role in representing the diversity of their organization. We get into the policies that were reviewed and established once DEI became an organizational priority, the impact this has had on company culture, key challenges they experienced along the way, and a whole lot more.To hear the full scope of their ongoing DEI evolution along with Normand’s advice for companies starting out on their diversity, equity, and inclusion journey, be sure to tune in for this informative conversation!Key Points From This Episode:Normand’s work at Sodexo and the key role he played in their transformative DEI journey.The six resource groups that were established to better represent the diversity of Sodexo.A breakdown of the policies that were reviewed upon making DEI an organizational priority.Why there was a need for Sodexo’s Council for Indigenous People.How changes in DEI have positively impacted the culture at Sodexo.The importance of including DEI principles in recruitment strategies.Why it’s critical for company leaders to support DEI principles throughout the organization.Some of the pushback and challenges Normand experienced.Unpacking why it’s important to create a space for Caucasian men within DEI.Insights on the connection between DEI and corporate responsibility.How Sodexo has helped clients with their DEI efforts.Normand’s advice to companies at the beginning of their DEI journeys.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:SodexoNormand St-Gelais on LinkedInCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
28:10 1/12/24
Season 2, Episode 12 | Guest: Brian Carwana
In today's new podcast episode of Leader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham, we're delving into the intricacies of the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict. We've noticed the profound impact this war has had on colleges, teams, and workplaces. Sorting through the vast amount of information available is challenging as it's tough to discern the facts from the misleading or inaccurate information circulating. Joining us today is Brian Carwana, Executive Director at Encounter World Religions Centre, to help navigate and come to grips with this complex issue. Brian is an esteemed figure in the realm of religious literacy, with a wealth of experience spanning two decades in the field. Brian has actively engaged with diverse sectors, imparting insights and expertise on religious diversity and pluralism.In our conversation, we unpack the complexities of the war and its impacts on society and workplaces in Canada. We discuss the history of the war, the nuance factors resulting in an ongoing war, and its overall impact on Canadian society. Gain insights into the different perspectives on the war, the national discourse on the topic, how the conflict is creating tensions in the workplace and more. Brian also provides advice to leaders and employees for navigating the discourse with compassion and how to foster understanding of each other perspectives in the workplace. Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussions of violence, conflict, and sensitive geopolitical issues related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which may be distressing or triggering for some Listeners. Listener discretion is advised.Key Points From This Episode:Overview of the war and where the current issues stem from.Reasons for the immigration of Jewish people into Palestine.Critical aspects to keep in mind when discussing the topic.The role of the British and the United Nations in the conflict's history.How previous suffering on both sides has led to war.Insights into the historical oppression of both communities.He unpacks what each side seeks to accomplish.Brian explains the national discourse in Canada surrounding the war.Problematic ideologies and language used in the national discourse.Discover how the war is impacting people in Canada.Common problems and tensions felt in the workplace about the war.Advice for leaders for navigating the topic within the workplace.Why increasing education around religious minorities is essential.Creating safe environments for robust and honest conversations.Final words of wisdom Brain has for listeners.For further resources on the background of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, check out these two blogs here: https://religionsgeek.com/index.php/2023/10/11/background-on-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/; https://religionsgeek.com/index.php/2023/11/02/backgrounder-on-israel-palestine-part-ii/To delve into understanding Antisemitism, explore this comprehensive blog: https://religionsgeek.com/index.php/2023/10/26/why-do-they-hate-the-jews/Additionally, to gain insights into Palestinians and the Muslim Other, visit: https://religionsgeek.com/index.php/2023/11/08/palestinians-and-the-muslim-other/
34:41 12/13/23
Season 2, Episode 11 | Guest: Marni Panas
Today’s special episode of Leader Talks commemorates Transgender Day of Remembrance (TDOR), which is an important observance on November 20th each year to honour the memory of the transgender people whose lives have been lost in acts of anti-transgender violence. To mark the occasion, we are joined by Marni Panas, a Canadian Certified Inclusion Professional (CCIP), human rights champion, and a sought-after keynote speaker who is dedicated to creating safer and more inclusive places where everyone can be their whole selves. Marni believes that the most effective way to reduce discrimination is to get to know the humans behind the labels and identities ascribed to them, and in this episode, she shares some simple and effective ways to increase awareness, be better informed, unlearn our inherent biases, and be better allies to the LGBTQIA+ community. To learn more about centring humanity and compassion and being an up-stander, not a bystander, tune in today!Key points from this episode:A glimpse into Marni’s personal journey and the many adjectives that describe her.Marni’s commitment to advancing social justice; which she calls a privilege.The hope that she has for young people in the face of rising hatred and transphobia.Why you don’t need to be an expert in gender or sexuality to have compassion.How the simple act of getting to know someone can reduce discrimination.The awareness and education you can achieve on your own as an ally.Reflecting on the significance of Transgender Day of Remembrance (TDOR).How leaders and employers can be better allies to trans and non-binary individuals.Why centring humanity and embracing discomfort are crucial elements of allyship.Final thoughts on the importance of looking beyond identity.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Marni PanasMarni Panas on XMarni Panas on LinkedInMarni Panas on InstagramTransgender Day of RemembranceCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
28:04 11/20/23
Season 2, Episode 10 | Guest: Amira Elghawaby
Islamic History Month, observed in October, is dedicated to commemorating, enlightening, educating, and fostering a deeper understanding among fellow Canadians about the diverse and valuable contributions of the Muslim community to society.In this new episode of Leader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham, we take a moment to celebrate the contributions of Muslims to Canada and discuss the many issues the community still faces. To help us unpack this nuance topic is Amira Elghawaby, Canada’s Special Representative on Combatting Islamophobia. Amira is a prominent journalist and human rights advocate who has made significant contributions to promoting equity, inclusion, and diversity in Canada. She has also worked in communications and human rights within Canada's labour movement and played a key role in promoting the civil liberties of Canadian Muslims.We start by delving into some interesting facts about the Muslim community and the state of islamophobia in Canada. Then, we discuss the background of the Muslim community in Canada, the concept of multiculturism, and the progress being made to combat Islamophobia. Amira shares details about her role, the essential work she is doing, and the many challenges Muslim communities currently face. We explore the intersection of race and religion in xenophobia, the hurdles younger Muslim generations must overcome, the impact of toxic narratives, common misconceptions surrounding Islam, and more. Tune in and gain a deeper understanding of the Muslim community in Canada with Amira Elghawaby! Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Amira ElghawabyAmira Elghawaby on LinkedInAmira Elghawaby on InstagramAmira Elghawaby on XIslamic History Month Canada (IHMC)Blackfoot ConfederacyCanadian Labour Congress‘Canada's Multiculturalism - Worth Defending’‘Canada’s unions: urgent action needed to end Islamophobia, protect Muslim communities’The Myth of the Muslim TideCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham*Please note this episode of Leader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham, on Islamophobia, which was produced before the October 2023 Israel-Palestine conflict, does not reference this conflict and the impact on groups affected. CCDI is committed to promoting diversity, equity and inclusion, and we stand against both antisemitism and Islamophobia. We offer valuable resources to employers seeking assistance in addressing these challenges. To learn more about what organizations can do to define and combat antisemitism in the workplace and beyond, visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p1vXLuA1X0 for CCDI's free webinar: Antisemitism: How to recognize and prevent it in the workplace.
53:50 10/27/23
Season 2, Episode 9 | Guests: Mike Casia, Sharlene Rutherford
Today, we’d like to celebrate the incredible work being done in our country to promote and fight for gender-based health equity. However, this work is far from finished and there is still so much more to do. For instance, Canada is 30th out of 146 countries when it comes to the global gender gap index. While this statistic may not seem immediately harrowing, it still highlights the persistent and systemic barriers against gender equity in the country that require immediate correction. Joining us today are two big players in the fight for gender-based health equity in Canada, Mike Casia and Sharlene Rutherford. Mike is the president and MD of Organon Canada, a global healthcare company focused on women’s health that works very closely with Sharlene and her organizations, the Alberta Women’s Health Foundation and the Women’s Health Collective Canada, which are centred around the same concerns. Our conversation tackles gender equity and health, why women’s health cannot be ignored, the consequences of villainizing conversations around women’s health, and the common health inequalities that are prevalent in Canada today. Mike and Sharlene also graciously explain the great work that their organizations are doing, the various partnerships that they’re involved in to drive the gender-based health movement forward, and what employers and everyday citizens can do to support gender and health equality, plus so much more!Key Points From This Episode:Introducing Mike and Sharlene and today’s topic: Gender Equity and Health.How and why Sharlene became so passionate about gender equality and health equity. Why Mike chose to be a leader in the fight for women’s health. Where health fits into the gender equality conversation, and why it matters. The consequences of making women’s issues taboo. Taking a closer look at the common health inequities that women in Canada face. Why women’s health needs to be normalized and become part of our everyday speech.The work that Mike and Sharlene’s organizations are doing to promote health equity.What employers and the general public can do to support gender and health equality. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Mike Casia on LinkedIn Sharlene Rutherford on LinkedInOrganon Canada  Royal Alexandra Hospital Foundation Alberta Women’s Health Foundation Women’s Health Collective Canada‘Global Gender Gap Report 2023’ ‘Surveying the Silence’Canadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
45:27 9/22/23
Season 2, Episode 8 | Guest: Salena Starling
Today, we are joined by thought leader and truth and reconciliation program facilitator Salena Starling, who is also the co-owner and president of Community of Big Hearts. Salena has personally been through Canada’s foster care system and, in this episode, she opens up about her journey. We discover how and why the foster care system disproportionately affects Indigenous youth and what needs to change to break stereotypes and address intergenerational trauma. Salena’s story illustrates the implicit challenges that Indigenous youths are born into and what can be done to support reconciliation efforts. Our guest is an exception, having made it out of the system as a healthy, successful individual. Tune in to hear about her efforts to break the cycle and what the rest of us can do to facilitate change.Key Points From This Episode: Introducing Salena Starling, President and Co-Owner of Community of Big Hearts.Salena shares her personal connection to Canada's child welfare system and its challenges.How and why the foster care system disproportionately affects Indigenous youth.The importance of reconciliation efforts to address intergenerational trauma.A reminder that the ‘60s scoop’ didn’t end in the 60s.What reconciliation involves and what needs to be done to support reconciliation efforts.The stereotype cycle affecting Indigenous people; what Salena is doing to break harmful stereotypes.Why it’s important to create safe spaces promoting dialogue and understanding.The role parents play in shaping their children's attitudes toward diversity and reconciliation.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Salena Starling on LinkedInCommunity of Big HeartsCanU CanadaCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
26:02 8/11/23
Season 2, Episode 7 | Guest: Zuraida Dada
Self-care refers to the intentional activities and practices that individuals engage in to nurture their physical, mental, and emotional health. Joining us today to help us understand the importance of self-care is Psychologist and Human Resources Consultant at Invictus Psychology and Consulting, Zuraida Dada. Zuraida is a seasoned psychologist specializing in adult individual therapy. She is known for her ability to create a warm, safe environment and provide empathetic, solution-focused care. Her main objective is to aid clients in reconnecting with themselves, strengthening their resilience, and enhancing their coping strategies. In our conversation, we uncover the importance of self-care through the lens of her personal and professional experiences. We unpack the negative stigmas of mental health, the value of psychoeducation, her positive psychology approach, and the causes of mental health issues. We also talk about safe places and the role of supervisors in mental health and hear invaluable advice on creating healthy work environments. Tune in now!Key Points From This Episode:Zuraida’s experience growing up in Apartheid South Africa.What sparked her initial interest in psychology.The state of mental health in Canada.Common misconceptions and stigmas regarding mental health.Zuraida shares her own mental health struggles.Separating the condition from the personality.Contributing factors to mental health conditions.How to create a safe and mentally healthy workplace.Advice for supervisors to create a healthy work environment.Providing effective support for employees.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Zuraida Dada on LinkedInInvictus Psychology and ConsultingThe Canadian Psychological AssociationThe Mental Health Commission of CanadaInternational Self-Care Day (ISD)Dr. Diane McIntoshThis Is DepressionCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
24:58 7/24/23
Season 2, Episode 6 | Guest: Kai Scott | Sponsored by Reliance Home Comfort
Today's guest is Kai Scott, and he is here to share his experience and expertise on the subject of pronouns and inclusive language. Kai is the President and Gender Strategist at TransFocus Consulting and has a great amount of insight into diversity in the workplace, with a focus on guiding thoughtful, respectful, and impactful conversations. In our chat, we get into some of the crucial areas of this discussion, including how to respond and react to mistakes, necessary nuances, creating safer workplaces, and more. Kai also unpacks the roots of TransFocus and a little of his career history and grounding in social science. So if you would like some fresh illumination on this important aspect of diversity and inclusion, how to be a better ally, and the ways in which we can all support change within companies, be sure to tune in! Key Points From This Episode:Kai takes us through the personal journey that led him to where he is today.An explanation of pronouns and why they are so important. Examples of pronoun usage in the workplace.Advice for how to approach fruitful conversations regarding gender diversity.  Thoughtfulness and nuance in conversations. Kai talks about how employers can create safer workplaces.  How to react to the mistakes we all inevitably make and assumptions around damage. Where to find Kai online and learn more about TransFocus and their work!Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Reliance Home ComfortKai Scott on LinkedInTransFocus Consulting TransFocus on LinkedInThe Surprisingly Simple Way to Transcend Differences About Gender TEDx TalkCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
30:45 6/7/23
Season 2, Episode 5 | Guest: Sania Chaudhry
In Canadian workplaces, many Asians are forced to grapple with the bamboo ceiling, which is a term that is used to describe how their growth and success within their organizations is hindered because of their ethnicity. Moreover, other harmful stereotypes (like calling Asians the “model minority”) mean that there is still much work to be done for Asians to feel completely welcome in their communities. We continue to highlight extraordinary individuals this Asian Heritage Month, and today’s guest is a stellar example of using strength, determination, and resilience to overcome issues of racism, sexism, and Islamophobia. Introducing Sania Chaudhry, an Employment, Labour, and Human Rights Lawyer and a passionate champion for diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Sania joins us today to discuss how DEI work became her life’s focus, how to push through the bamboo ceiling, why the model minority is a damaging stereotype, and how marginalized people can speak for themselves in environments that discourage them to do so. We also explore the role of allies in the workplace, how to diversify the leadership prototype, why colonialism remains ever-present, and so much more!  Key Points From This Episode:A warm welcome to Employment, Labour and Human Rights Lawyer, Sania Chaudhry.Sania’s professional background and why diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) matters to her. Her perception of the bamboo ceiling and examples of how she’s been marginalized at work. The myth of the model minority and why this is a harmful stereotype.What employers and workplaces need to do to address the bamboo ceiling problem. How marginalized people can speak up for themselves in uncomfortable environments. Redefining and diversifying the prototype of leadership.Making work activities accessible and enjoyable for all employees.How colonialism still affects Asians today. Ways that Sania brings forth her concerns at work amid the risk of reprisal. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Sania Chaudhry on LinkedIn Forte Workplace LawUniversity of Calgary Canadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
41:18 5/23/23
Season 2, Episode 4 | Guest: Brittany Gataveckas
We are thrilled to welcome Brittany Gataveckas to the show as she helps us better understand Canada’s new 50-30 challenge. Brittany is the Manager of Social Sustainability at the UN Global Compact Network Canada, and her expertise as a project design and implantation specialist is critical in her work of helping Canadian organizations advance their gender equality, diversity, and inclusion. In our conversation, Brittany gives us a clear understanding of Canada’s 50-30 challenge and how this work could be a defining factor in improving human rights in Canadian workplaces. We discuss the role of the UN Global Compact Network Canada and other ecosystem partners in the government-led movement, the potential learning paths for participants of the challenge, how to join the 50-30 challenge, and everything you need to know before signing up. And if you are feeling overwhelmed by your involvement in the challenge, Brittany reminds us that it’s okay to start small, as long as you stay committed! Key Points From This Episode:Introducing today’s guest, the Manager of Social Sustainability at the UN Global Compact Network Canada (UNGCNC), Brittany Gataveckas. Brittany’s background, and more information on her company and her current role. How her work encompasses diversity, equity, and inclusion. The Canadian government’s 50-30 challenge and its merits on addressing human rights.  Taking a look at the ecosystem partners of the 50-30 challenge, including the UNGCNC.What’s being offered in the 50-30 challenge and the potential learning paths for participants.The steps that employers can take to join the 50-30 challenge. Some things for businesses to consider before embarking on the 50-30 challenge. A reminder that it’s okay to start small, as long as you stay committed to the cause! Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Brittany Gataveckas on LinkedInUN Global Compact Network Canada S. Sutton & Associates Inc.The 50-30 Challenge: Your Diversity AdvantageCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
37:31 4/20/23
Season 2, Episode 3 | Guest: Kadie Ward
Women have been undervalued in the workplace for almost a century and a half! Today on the Leader Talks Podcast we are celebrating International Women’s Day with the incredible Kadie Ward to discuss gender inequality in the workplace. This episode is packed with some amazing insights into how women have been undervalued in work over the years, why legislation is essential in closing the gender wage gap, how gender diversity, equity, and inclusion create economic prosperity, and so much more! Kadie even shares some tools for how to make a difference in these issues and tells us how we can play a role in her vision for an inclusive Canada. To hear all this and more, tune in now!Key Points From This Episode:Introducing today’s guest, Kadie Ward. A brief overview of Kadie’s illustrious career and the awards she’s received.Kadie tells us why the need for equality to achieve prosperity keeps her so engaged in work.A history of women in the workplace, how they’ve been undervalued, and how it’s changed. How legislation is closing the gender wage gap faster than human rights. What the economic value proposition of gender diversity is and its economic impacts. Some examples of what we need to do to close the pay gap and some tools we can use.Kadie shares her vision for an inclusive Canada and what role we can play in it. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Kadie Ward on LinkedInKadie Ward on TwitterKadie Ward on FacebookPay Equity Solution for Small Businesses ToolkitLevel Playing Field SeriesCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
27:50 3/7/23
Season 2, Episode 2 | Guest: Claudia Gomez-Villeneuve
When it comes to women in engineering, Canada’s numbers are surprisingly low. They are substantially outperformed by countries like Panama and Colombia, both of which have near parity when it comes to the ratio of women to men in engineering (despite having to contend with far greater levels of instability than Canada). Our guest today, Claudia Gomez-Villeneuve, is uniquely qualified to talk on the topic of women in engineering in Canada, having emigrated from Colombia during her studies and overcoming tremendous barriers to entry in the process. She is also the co-founder, Principal, and two times Chair of the Women in Engineering Summit (WES), a non-profit organization dedicated to supporting the 30 by 30 Initiative by Engineers Canada. In our conversation with Claudia, we unpack Canada’s low enrollment rates, how it varies across the country, and what can be done about it. We discuss the various systemic issues that cause so many women to leave the field of engineering, the major obstacles Claudia has faced in her career, and how she had to fight to overcome them. Claudia also shares her tips for women struggling to navigate their engineering careers and offers sage advice to workplaces on how they can ensure the retention of their female workers. The world needs engineers, and now more than ever, it needs the unique perspective that female engineers have to offer. Tune in for this inspiring conversation, where we break down the systemic issues within the field of science and engineering, and the important work people are doing to change it!Key Points From This Episode:The importance of removing systemic barriers to women entering the field of engineering, and giving them a fair chance to succeed.Claudia provides a breakdown of the seven key obstacles she faced in her career and her studies, and how she had to work around them.Understanding how obstacles force many women to leave the field of engineering.Claudia’s thoughts on the systemic issues that resulted in her pay being lower than her male counterparts and not being considered for management positions.Why needing to negotiate for your salary is an unreasonable expectation for workers.The networking that happens outside of work and how it excludes women, immigrants, and anyone who doesn’t have a close friendship with higher-level executives.Learn about the 30 by 30 initiative and its specific targets for increasing the number of women in the field of engineering by 2030. The percentage of women in Canada who pursue engineering and its low enrollment rates compared to many other countries.Examples of areas in Canada where enrolment rates have improved considerably thanks to grassroots campaigns.Claudia’s tips on how to change your salary, find flexible work opportunities, and thrive in the workplace as a woman.Claudia’s advice for workplaces on how to support women in engineering.The Women in Engineering Summit in 2023 and how women can sign up.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Claudia Gomez-VilleneuveClaudia Gomez-Villeneuve on LinkedInWomen in Engineering SummitEnbridge IncEngineers Canada30 by 30 Conference30 by 30 Virtual ConferenceCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
45:21 2/10/23
Season 2, Episode 1 | Guest: Brian Carwana
Canada is one of the most religiously diverse liberal democracies in the world, but unfortunately the level of religious literacy in the country is very low. This lack of understanding of different belief systems is the root cause of the high levels of hate crimes experienced by minority groups. Today’s guest, Brian Carwana (also known as the ReligionsGeek), is passionate about advancing religious literacy through contact theory. In today’s episode, he explains how his organization, Encounter World Religions, explores different religions, creates connections, and facilitates open conversations in order to eliminate harmful biases, discriminatory practices, and acts of hate. Key Points From This Episode:Introducing today’s guest, Brian Carwana, also known as the ReligionsGeek. Brian explains what religious literacy is. Comparing religious diversity in Canada and the US. Problems that can arise as a result of a lack of religious literacy. Some of the hate crimes that have taken place in Canada in recent years. Examples of religious discrimination (often unintentional) in the workplace.The impacts that religious discrimination and hate crimes have on communities.What research shows about the psychological safety of religious minorities in Canada.  The increase in hate crimes in Canada in the past few years.Positive trends in the religious diversity space in Canada. Factors that are responsible for religious-based hate.The goal of Brian’s organization, Encounter World Religions. How you can address the issue of religious bias in your own life.Examples of how to reduce religious bias in the workplace, and resources that will help.The four stages of religious literacy.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Brian CarwanaBrian Carwana on TwitterBrian Carwana on LinkedInEncounter World Religions
29:47 1/13/23
Season 1, Episode 14 | Guests: Ana Maria Desmaison Cornejo and Linda Espinosa Valencia
In today's conversation with Ana Maria Desmaison Cornejo and Linda Espinosa Valencia, we are offered some amazing recommendations and expertise on the reality of working towards a better future. As the co-founders of Ventura Collective and individuals who have dedicated themselves to creating systemic change, our guests are uniquely positioned within the Canadian professional landscape to talk about the challenges we face in making real progress. We get to hear from Linda and Ana Maria about some of the actionable strategies that leaders can and should be using to facilitate more inclusive communities, uplift marginalized groups, and decolonize workplaces. The conversation covers dismantling the actual systems of oppression, how grassroots organizations can play a part, confronting the opportunity and pay gaps, and much more. Key takeaways include the mission at Ventura Collective and the need for a constant re-evaluation of the transparency and accountability at any organization. So to hear all this and much more from these two powerhouses, tune in today! Key Points From This Episode:An introduction to Ventura Collective and our two guests' involvement in the field of diversity, equity, and inclusion.Unpacking the societal contributions from the Latinx communities.Workplace challenges faced by Latinx communities; opening up this important conversation.  How Ventura Collective is connecting with Latinx women to confront the issues of the pay gap. The intersectional and plural nature of the Latinx experience.  The hangovers from colonialism that need to be shed by Latinx communities. What allyship really means; coming together for systemic change. Top recommendations for the implementation of equity, diversity, and inclusion frameworks at companies.The awareness and learning that employers need to foster in relation to their employees. Recapping the key takeaways from today's conversation!  Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Ana Maria Desmaison Cornejo on LinkedInLinda Espinosa Valencia on LinkedInAnne-Marie Pham on LinkedinCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks with Anne-Marie Pham
40:55 12/9/22
Season 1, Episode 13 | Guest: Albert Wong
When recruiters from the Canadian Armed Forces looked at scrawny, 18-year-old Chinese-Canadian, Albert Wong, they voted that he would be the first person to fail basic training. He ended up serving for 39 years, and today he is a Citizenship Judge in the Greater Toronto Area. During this episode, Albert talks about the discrimination that he faced during his career as a result of his heritage and the color of his skin, and how he is using what he has learned from his experiences to effect systemic change with regard to diversity and inclusion. Albert shares why Canada’s approach to treating its citizens is one that the rest of the world would do well to emulate, why empathy is one of the most important qualities in a leader, the factors that are essential for social cohesion, and the sacred obligation of all Canadians. This Remembrance Day, take the time to honor the unsung military heroes! Key Points From This Episode:Stories of some of the Canadian military’s unsung heroes.How the sacrifices made by men like Hasan Amat and Buckam Singh opened doors for minority populations in Canada. An overview of Judge Albert Wong’s career in military service. Awards that Albert has been awarded.Albert shares what motivated him to join the Canadian Armed Forces at the age of 18.Challenges that Albert faced as a Chinese Canadian soldier. A memorable moment from the early days of Albert’s military career.  Albert’s approach to mentorship.The culture of the Canadian Armed Forces.Why Albert always constantly felt like he had to prove himself while working in the military.How Albert practices active allyship. Why Albert believes Canada is an example to the rest of the world of how to treat people fairly. Albert's advice for how to be a better leader. Why Albert admires Thomas Bata. Lessons from the COVID-19 pandemic.What Albert believes to be the key factor that enables social cohesion. Albert’s thoughts on how to integrate veterans into the workplace. What citizenship really means.The inspirational determination of Nav Bhatia. The sacred obligation of all Canadian citizens. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Albert Wong on LinkedInCanadian Armed Forces
47:50 11/10/22
Season 1, Episode 12 | Guest: Yin Brown - Intersections of disability and mental health
Yin Brown is a first generation immigrant of Chinese descent, and the Director of Inclusion, Diversity, Equity & Accessibility (IDEA) at the Abilities Centre in Ontario. She also happens to be blind. Her passion is employment for people with disabilities, and she has led many advocacy groups to fight for the cause. Join us today as she reveals the work that the Abilities Centre does to facilitate inclusivity both within their organization, and for others seeking to accommodate their employees. We touch on the role of managers in initiating the conversation about access needs, what you should always avoid as an employer, and how the HR department can accommodate inclusivity on all levels. We discuss what it means to shift the paradigm to reflect the necessity of inclusivity for everyone, and not just those whose access needs are not currently being met. Next, we talk about employee support, eligibility for government funding, setting goals for inclusion, and much more. Thanks for tuning in! Key Points From This Episode:An introduction to today’s guest, Director of Inclusion, Diversity, Equity, and Accessibility at the Abilities Centre in Ontario.What made Yin passionate about advocating for the employment of people with disabilities.The work that the Abilities Centre does to facilitate inclusivity, with variations available.How the HR department accommodates inclusivity on all levels.Why people experience fear at disclosing their disability.The role of managers in initiating the conversation about access needs.What you should absolutely avoid as an employer: any and all assumptions.The Lead program facilitated by the Abilities Centre to support other organizations.Recommendations for supportive organizations in Montreal.How virtual meetings have contributed to accessibility in the workplace today.Presenting a business case that shows the benefits of inclusivity to win over senior management.Shifting the paradigm to show that inclusion affects everyone, and not only those with disabilities.Supporting employees by drawing on their past successes to create present-day solutions.Eligibility based on how your business impacts your sector and your community.Why inclusion is not totally dependent on government funding.Navigating employers who insist on returning to the office.Setting goals for inclusion and assuring employees of confidentiality with the option of not disclosing.Emphasizing what you can do during a job application.Initiating the conversation about the accommodations you need during the onboarding process.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Yin Brown on LinkedInYin Brown on TwitterAbilities CentreDisabled Women’s NetworkAnne-Marie Pham on LinkedInCanadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion
42:13 10/19/22
Season 1, Episode 11 | Guest: Laura Arndt - National Day for Truth and Reconciliation
September 30th is the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation to help us learn and reflect on what we need to know and do. The Indigenous residential school system was designed to isolate Indigenous children from their culture, religion, and identity to assimilate them into the dominant colonial culture. The impacts of this repressive system are still felt today and injustices of the past have still not been reconciled.To help us unpack the history and these complex ideas is Laura Arndt, Chief operating officer of Survivors’ Secretariat, a survivor-lead organization mandated to uncover the truth about unmarked burial grounds. Laura is dedicated to the importance of dialogue and focuses her work on the complexity of kinship, relationships, and community through the lens of culture, identity, and belonging. She has diverse experience and is deeply committed to her work, community, and family. Laura is proudly Mohawk and clan member of the Six Nations of the Grand River, on the board of directors for Feathers of Hope, and regularly volunteers at the Jays Care Foundation. To add to her exhaustive list of expertise, she serves on the Ontario Law Society Tribunal, the Indigenous Advisory Circle for Right to Play Canada, and is a Ph.D. candidate in Cultural Studies at Queens University. In our conversation, she shares her knowledge as we discuss the history and the lasting negative legacy of the Canadian Indian residential school system. We learn about the important work she is doing, her personal connection with the work she does, and what motivates her. We also discuss the importance of justice, cultural identity and community, and how she approaches her work. She also shares simple steps to begin dialogue and book recommendations that will get you started. Don’t miss out on this inspiring conversation with Laura Arndt!Key Points From This Episode:Laura gives us background about the Survivors’ Secretariat and its purpose and mandate.Learn about the many people and agencies Laura has worked with during her career.The focus of the Survivors’ Secretariat.How to support the work she does and build a path towards truth and reconciliation.Why survivors having a voice, feeling protected, and cultural identity is essential.The importance of engaging communities, establishing dialogue, and knowing the facts. Book recommendations that will inspire listeners to question and take action.A simple approach to practice in the workplace to begin a dialogue.An important takeaway message that Laura has for listeners.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Laura Arndt EmailCentennial CollegeSurvivors’ SecretariatSix Nations of the Grand RiverFeathers of HopeJays Care FoundationRight to PlayQueens UniversityLaw Society TribunalA Knock at the DoorUnsettling CanadaAnne-Marie Pham on LinkedInAnne-Marie Pham on Twitter
30:27 9/29/22
Season 1, Episode 10 | Guest: Erin Goodpipe
Diversity and inclusion is a hot topic in the world right now, but knowing how to make a difference can be tricky. Joining us in conversation today is Erin Goodpipe, a multi-disciplinary artist, educator, and researcher from the Standing Buffalo Dakota Nation. She shares her story of being the first in her family to graduate from high school, learning that education far extends beyond what we learn in the four walls of a classroom along the way. You’ll hear why she prioritizes putting herself in indigenous spaces, and how she goes about honoring the relationship we have with everything around us in her daily life. Erin tells us all about the theatre work she has done with the Making Treaty 4 Collective, which they were invited to perform at the Globe Theatre. We explore the way that stories inform culture as we live them out, the unconventional introduction to theatre that led her to work in it today, as well as what she gained from the theatre-making experience. We talk about the pivotal period of youth, how to engage with youth work in a meaningful way, and Erin fills us in on her latest projects to look out for. Join us to hear more today!Key Points From This Episode:•    Today’s guest: Erin Goodpipe, multi-disciplinary artist, educator, and researcher.•    Her educational background, studying Indigenous Education to Masters level, and film.•    Erin’s work as a television host on the Other Side on the ATP Network.•    Erin introduces us and welcomes us to the episode in her language.•    The belief her community has had in her which she wants to carry forward for others.•    Her experience being the first one to finish high school in her family. •    What she has learned about education: that it goes beyond the four walls of a classroom.•    Why she chooses to prioritize putting herself in indigenous spaces. •    How she goes about honoring the relationship we have with everything in daily life.•    Why youth is a significant period of life: a time to find out how you are connected to others.•    The work she is doing with the Making Treaty 4 Collective which she was invited to perform at the Globe Theatre.•    Why stories are powerful and how they create culture as we live them out.•    Her unconventional introduction to theatre during her studies through her former boss.•    The experience of creating theatre that went far beyond the performance element.•    Erin’s ideas to make the art scene in Canada more inclusive: resources, space, and funding. •    Building trust and committing to relationships and ‘ongoingness’ as you engage with people.•    Holistic learning: engaging with the mental, emotional, and physical through experience.•    The projects she is currently working on: Treaty Road on ATP, and Sir John A at the Globe.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Erin Goodpipe on LinkedIn  Making Treaty 4 on FacebookThe Other Side 
29:40 8/11/22
Season 1, Episode 9 | Guest: Naheed Nenshi
As we celebrate Canada Day, we look at how we can take pride in our country but also be more proactive in making it a more equitable and inclusive society. Joining us for this conversation is the former mayor of Calgary, Naheed Nenshi. Naheed is a passionate Calvarian, an accomplished business professional, and a community leader with a solid track record of getting things done. While he served as mayor from 2010 to 2021 he successfully led Calgary through a massive flood, spearheaded some major infrastructure projects to revitalize the city, and he even won the 2014 World Mayor Prize. In this episode, he shares the story of how his family came to live in Canada, why they chose this country, the flaws in the Canadian immigration system, and how we need to change this. Tuning in you’ll hear Naheed’s thoughts on how to address inequity and racism in the workplace. Naheed provides some profound insight on the creation of empathy, the value of setting aside our egos, the importance of letting go of our own defensiveness and assumptions, as well as other steps we can take toward equity in our country. Naheed is famous for his Three Things for Calgary initiative. To find out how you can make Canada more equitable and inclusive by doing just three things, tune in today!Key Points From This Episode:An introduction to today’s guest Naheed Nenshi and his impressive career.The story of how Naheed’s family came to Canada and why they chose this country.The importance of welcoming immigrants to Canada in order to create harmony and inclusion.How the Canadian immigration system unfairly functions as a bait and switch system and the need for this to change.How we need to be proud of what we’ve built but also understand that we are not an anti-racist society.Speculation as to whether or not we are ready as a society to become completely equitable.Naheed’s thoughts on how to address inequity and racism in the workplace. Why we have to let go of our own defensiveness and our own assumptions.The importance of investigating institutional or systemic barriers to employment or promotion in your workplace.How to support minority-owned businesses through adjusting procurement and supply chain policies.A real-life example that demonstrates how we need to challenge our most basic assumptions. How putting the blame on systemic racism lets racist individuals off the hook.Questions on how to create a sense of empathy. Setting aside your ego and accepting that nobody is getting everything that they want as a step toward equity. Thoughts on meritocracy versus diversity in the hiring process and how these are not mutually exclusive.Insight into Naheed’s Three Things for Calgary initiative and how you can do three things to make Canada more equitable and inclusive.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Naheed NenshiNaheed Nenshi on TwitterBuilding Up: Making Canada’s Cities Magnets for Talent and Engines of DevelopmentCanadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion
34:05 6/30/22
Saison 1, Épisode 8 | Invité.e : Moe Hamandi
Spécialiste réputé.e en équité, diversité et inclusion, Moe Hamandi est une personne libano-canadien.ne parfaitement imparfaite. Entre ses implications communautaires, artistiques et corporatives, l’artiste scientifique a réussi a accompagné plusieurs leaders dans leur chemin vers l’inclusion. Dans cet épisode, Moe rejoint Anne-Marie pour parler de sa vie au Liban, de son expérience d'immigrant.e à Montréal (sa deuxième mère) et de son cheminement vers la découverte de soi en ce qui concerne son identité de genre et son orientation sexuelle. Joignez-vous à nous pour cette discussion animée alors qu'iel plonge dans la véritable signification de son nom, les défis auxquels les communautés LGBTQ2S+ sont encore confrontées et sa vision pour Fierté Montréal.Liens mentionnés dans l'épisode d'aujourd'hui :Moe Hamandi sur LinkedInFierté MontréalBanque Nationale du CanadaCentre canadien pour la diversité et l’inclusionBalado Conversation entre leaders
30:41 6/24/22
Season 1, Episode 7 | Guests: Bhavna Duggal, Elizabeth Lim, Andi Shi - Anti-Asian racism
Today’s episode is a special fireside chat with three very interesting Asian Leaders from across Canada, who will be sharing with us their insights and unique perspectives on what we do in our communities and workplaces to address anti-Asian racism. Anti-Asian racism, over the past two years, continues to trend upwards in Canada according to research. To talk more about it and better understand the issues at hand, we welcome our guests: First, Bhavna Duggal, a global financial service leader with over 16 years of finance management and advisory experience across Canada, Europe, and Asia. Next, Elizabeth Lim, an experienced and committed Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DE&I) strategist and practitioner as well as a culturally curious leader who quickly understands organization and client needs. Lastly, we welcome Andi Shi, who is the Executive Director at CPAC, a multidimensional, not-for-profit organization that is a professionals association, a career service provider for internationally educated professionals and underprivileged youth, and also an independent research, training, and education organization for the advancement of racial equity, diversity, and inclusion. Please join us in our fireside chat with our panel guests as we dive into the much needed conversation about diversity, equity, and inclusion, the anti-Asian racism trends in Canada, hindering Asian stereotypes in leadership roles, and more.Key Points From This Episode:We hear some research findings regarding the anti-Asian racism trends in Canada.An introduction to the panel guests. Elizabeth’s journey of being a diversity, equity, and inclusion leader with an Asian heritage.Andi elaborates on their study about how different Asian stereotypes hinder Asian-Canadian people in leadership positions.How Chinese/Asian culture affects perspective when it comes to leadership qualities.Bhavna shares how Ascend Canada is working towards breaking down barriers for pan-Asian talent to reach their full potential.Why making things awkward helps kickstart things into action.Elizabeth comments on the responsibility of workplaces to sustain conversations around anti-Asian racism and support Asian colleagues and clients.Programs to implement: DE&I strategies that address barriers and intersectionality.  Andi talks about the current pulse of current concerns and opportunities at the community level; lack of awareness and lack of capacity.The importance for Canadian citizens to learn about Asian history in the growth, expansion, and being of the country.Bhavna shares tips on mindset, attitudes, and skills that have helped her be a more effective advocate for diversity and be an ally to address racism. We end off the episode with a live Q&A. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Andi ShiAndi Shi on LinkedInCPAC-CanadaBhavna Duggal on LinkedInAscend CanadaAscend Canada ResourcesEmotional Tax StudyEmotional Tax Ascent ArticleElizabeth Lim on LinkedInWe Were Dreamers
50:59 5/31/22
Season 1, Episode 6 | Guests: Mark Harrison, Tyjondah Kerr
Important conversations about diversity and inclusion need to be coupled with effective action, and real change. Figuring out the best steps for this is not always easy, and today we shed some light on the intricacies of the topic, and hopefully offer some practical solutions to these challenging questions. Joining for a CCDI Fireside chat are Tyjondah Kerr and Mark Harrison, who are both doing amazing work on a number of different fronts for positive change within Canadian workspaces. Tyjondah has had a long career working in the gaming space, working at the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation, or OLG, for over 20 years. She holds a degree in psychology from the University of Windsor, and is a multiple award winner, recently being honoured by 100ABCWomen and receiving the Vaike Murusalu Empowerment Award! Mark Harrison is an experienced entrepreneur, having founded T1 Agency, MH3 Collective, the Black Talent Initiative, co-founded Park Street Education, as well as being elected Chair of the Board of Directors for Big Brothers and Big Sisters Toronto. In our chat with these two amazing guests, we hear some personal reflections and lessons they learned in their work, some larger ideas on progress, and thoughts on the areas that are most pressing at present. Both Tyjondah and Mark are generous and honest in their answers, talking about the challenges that we face, and the hope that we can have. For all this and more, join us today.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Tyjondah Kerr on LinkedInMark HarrisonMark Harrison on LinkedInT1 AgencyMH3 CollectiveBlack Talent InitiativePark Street EducationBig Brothers and Big Sisters of TorontoCMHA FoundationUniversity of WindsorCasino of WindsorOLG100ABCWomenNoughts & CrossesAnne-Marie PhamCanadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion
47:29 3/30/22
Season 1, Episode 5 | Guest: Ellen Melis
Truly diverse and inclusive organizations are places where employees from many different backgrounds come together and feel that they belong. This in turn creates an environment where complex problems can be solved by teams that bring a rich set of perspectives to the table. Today’s special guest is Ellen Melis, President and Head Coach of Unlimited Potential, and she joins us to talk about how organizations can place a higher value on EDI as well as what is possible for them through doing so. We kick things off by hearing about Ellen’s experience as a leadership coach and student of EDI, and from there she talks about the work being done to make healthcare policy more informed by diverse experiences. We talk about how to make a case for EDI to organization leaders, how to take steps toward it once it has become a priority, and how much more effectively communities can be served once it is achieved. If you want to begin working toward EDI on a personal, team, or organizational level, today's show is a must-hear.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Ellen Melis on LinkedInUnlimited PotentialCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeader Talks Podcast
28:38 1/25/22
Season 1, Episode 4 | Guest: Nathan Hall
Canada calls itself multicultural, but today’s guest challenges this assertion. The lack of education and public discourse around African Canadian heritage caused Nathan Hall to feel a diminished sense of belonging from a young age. As his life went on he began to realize more and more how people of color are excluded and discriminated against in a multitude of different situations. Uncomfortable and discrediting personal experiences that he has had as a black male living in Canada led Nathan to found Culture Check, a social impact business which focuses on enhancing inclusivity in the workplace. Everyone experiences the world differently, and the first step towards building an inclusive future is the simple act of listening, and being open to understanding a perspective different from your own. Join us today for an enlightening conversation which will make you rethink your role as a leader! Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Culture CheckNathan Hall on LinkedInCanadian Centre for Diversity and InclusionLeaders Talk Podcast
41:02 12/10/21
Season 1, Episode 3 | Guest: Kiersten Mohr
Kiersten Mohr is an openly transgender woman and invests her time away from work giving back to her community. She was inspired and emboldened by the positive experience of her gender transition in 2017 and is now passionate to use her visibility and voice to help promote positive public awareness as well as understanding and inclusion of transgender and gender diverse individuals. 
27:18 11/19/21
Season 1, Episode 2 | Guest: Amanda Kennedy
Join Anne-Marie Pham as she talks with  Amanda Kennedy, an innovative Indigenous leader, anti-racist educator, consultant, strategic community planner, program developer, and facilitator/trainer. 
29:47 10/4/21
Season 1, Episode 1 | Guest: Tim Fox - Anti-Indigenous racism
Anne-Marie Pham, Executive Director of the Canadian Centre for Diversity and Inclusion, speaks with Indigenous leader, Tim Fox, who shares his incredible story and insights for addressing anti-Indigenous racism at the systems level.
32:37 9/29/21