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Jesus Changes People

A weekly podcast that seeks to uncover the real Jesus and what it means to be a modern-day follower of him. Our goal is to help you know Jesus better and to become more like him.


Same Message To Different Groups
Mike and Ken tackle the next 5 verses of chapter 2. In these verses, Paul continues his narrative, which he started in verse 1, about what happened during the meetings in Jerusalem. In them, we learn that the apostles and leaders in Jerusalem add nothing to Paul’s message and bless him and Barnabas to continue on sharing the message with the Gentiles. They also ask that Paul remember the poor, which he’s eager to do. Ken and Mike discuss how ministry is divvied up, what brings unity between everyone, and what a grace changed life looks like. A listener wants to know if there are Bible names that make the guys chuckle. Also, what causes one of the guys to complain about back pain and the other to commit a blooper?Passage: Galatians 2:6-10
122:50 4/8/24
The Good News At Stake
Ken and Mike are back in the book of Galatians after their Easter intermission. They begin in chapter 2, which in Paul’s account was fourteen years since the end of chapter 1. And Paul is back in Jerusalem, along with Barnabas and Titus. He’s setup a private meaning with the leaders in the Jerusalem church, which then will lead to a public meeting. The question to be settled is, can someone be saved without coming under the Mosaic law? The Judaizers think no, Paul thinks yes. What will the council decide? Mike and Ken discuss the characters, the dispute, and what it means to preserve the gospel, then and now. Also, it’s April Fool’s Day. Will the guys even acknowledge it? And is that the James Bond Theme song? Who’s outed as a secret spy?Passage: Galatians 2:1-5
103:08 4/1/24
Easter: It Is Finished
Mike and Ken finish the last episode in their Easter intermission from Galatians. They focus in on Jesus’ last words “It is finished” recorded in the book of John. They are the 3 most important words in scripture. But what exactly was finished? To understand what was finished requires us to understand the problems that needed to be fixed. Mike and Ken look at the issues that existed because Adam and Eve snacked on fruit from a tree they shouldn’t have. With that background, they discuss what Jesus finished and how that brought a remedy to our situation, changing who we are and how we live. A listener wants to know what Easter traditions the guys enjoy. Also, where are some of the great and not so great places to hide Easter eggs? And Hot Cross Buns banned, say it ain’t so? Is there any hope for these tasty treats to live on?Passages: John 19:1-30, Genesis 1:26-27, Psalm 8:5, Genesis 2:16-17, Genesis 5:1b-3, Romans 5:12-19, 1 Peter 1:20, 1 Corinthians 1:30, Colossians 1:13, Romans 6:3-8, Romans 8:28-29
130:49 3/25/24
Good Friday: At The Cross
Ken and Mike continue their intermission from Galatians to focus on Easter. In this episode, the focus is Jesus’ crucifixion, which is the focus for many churches on the Friday before Easter. Historically, this Friday has been called Good Friday. Mike and Ken recount the events leading up to Jesus’ crucifixion. They also discuss two key elements that Jesus’ death saves us from. And how these elements fit into the communion meal. Their discussion helps us find our place in Jesus’ story. Finding ourselves there changes us in the here and now. A listener wants to know what Holy Week activities have the guys taken part in and what they thought of them. Also, are Hot Cross Buns a cure all and protector from all calamity?Passages: Romans 3:23, 1 Corinthians 15:3b, Ephesians 1:7-8a, Isaiah 53:6a, Galatians 2:20, Colossians 3:3, Romans 6:6a, 1 Corinthians 11:23-26, Luke 22:14-22, Matthew 26:26-29
114:38 3/18/24
Palm Sunday: Setting Things In Motion
Mike and Ken take an intermission from Galatians to focus on Easter. Up first, Jesus’ Triumphal Entry into Jerusalem, a week before His crucifixion. This is celebrated by churches on the Sunday before Easter and is called Palm Sunday. During Jesus’ entry into Jerusalem, some are confused and others think they are in control. But there is someone who isn’t confused and is in complete control of what’s going on. Ken and Mike discuss Palm Sunday and what applications we can draw from it for ourselves. Also, a listener wants the guys’ advice on a Palm Sunday reenactment at their church. And how in the world does Hot Cross Buns end up in this episode?Passages: Matthew 21:1-11, Mark 11:1-11, Luke 19:28-40, John 12:12-19
114:20 3/11/24
The Impact Of A Changed Life
Following Paul sharing how his life was changed by Jesus, he turns to share how others were affected by his new life. Who were these others? The church in Jerusalem, Peter, James, and the churches of Judea. The churches in Judea had never seen Paul in person, but knew of his changed life. And his story led them to praise God because of his conversion. Ken and Mike discuss Paul’s life change and its impact, and how our changed lives can have an impact as well. Also, a listener asks the guys about the Restoration Movement, which they mentioned a few episodes back. And do you hear all those bells? Where could so many bells be rung all at one time?Passage: Galatians 1:18-24
125:25 3/4/24
The Story Of A Changed Life
Paul continues on in his letter, telling the Galatians how everything was going his way as an unconverted rabbi. But then a sudden change happened. Paul had an encounter with Jesus, which showed him his outward work hadn’t brought inner change. Through this interaction with Jesus, he learned God was pleased to have Jesus dwell in him. From this inner change came a ministry to the Gentiles. Mike and Ken discuss the miraculous story of Paul’s changed life and how that gives us hope in our own stories. Also, does the leap have some linkage to church history? And a listener wants to know what does the word Bible actually mean, and where does it come from?Passage: Galatians 1:13-17
102:50 2/26/24
The End Of People Pleasing
Immediately following his reprimand, Paul wants to know if the Galatians think he’s out to win people’s approval. He quickly answers that popularity is not his goal because that would negate him being a slave of Jesus. He then lets the Galatians know that not only is his ministry from God and Jesus, but also his message. Ken and Mike discuss these transitional verses and how even here in Paul’s writing there’s much for us to learn and apply. Also, a listener wants to know what the guys think Noah and his family did for fun on the ark. And how do the Amish, President’s Day, popularity contests, and pastors stumping for their jobs find their way into this episode?Passage: Galatians 1:10-12
121:07 2/19/24
The Real Thing And The Fake
Paul skips his regular thankfulness for those he’s writing to and launches right into reprimanding the Galatians. He does so because the Galatians are in danger of rejecting the gospel for a phony, knock-off message. Paul loves them too much to let that happen. And he’ll even speak hard words to keep them from fully deserting God and the gospel message. Mike and Ken discuss Paul’s rebuke and how it translates to us today. It’s almost Valentine’s day. Will the guys mention it at all or have they totally forgotten? And what causes them to consult AI for an answer? Passage: Galatians 1:6-9
119:19 2/12/24
The Rescue
Paul shifts from giving his credentials to blessing the Galatians. Every word of his blessing is loaded with meaning. And Paul is sharing it to remind the Galatians they’ve been set free because of what Jesus did and not what they do by living under rules and regulations. Ken and Mike go word by word through Paul’s blessing and help us see what it meant for the Galatians, and what it means for us. A listener asks the guys for ideas on how to celebrate the true meaning of February 2nd. And Candlemas is what made Groundhog Day possible. But did you know it spawned another national holiday? Can you guess what holiday it might be?Passage: Galatians 1:3-5
111:56 2/5/24
The Credentials
Paul opens his letter in a brief, formal, terse, to the point sort of way. He’s concerned for the Galatian churches and he wants to get right to the point. His first matter of business is to give his credentials as to why he’s qualified to write this letter, and that he has support from others to do so. Mike and Ken learned during their season on the book of Colossians not to take too many of Paul’s verses at once, so in this episode, they’re only tackling two. That’s right, only two. Uh oh, a listener asks the guys about an ice breaker question they’ve used. What could it be? And do the guys answer it? Also, what gets the guys derailed into talking about the misuse of scripture?Passage: Galatians 1:1-2
116:12 1/29/24
Intro to Galatians
Ken and Mike wade into another one of Paul’s letters for season 8. The book of Galatians is all about how to be and live free. Before looking at the early verses of the letter, the guys spend some time laying groundwork to help us better understand what we’ll be reading. They discuss the author Paul; the backstory involving Paul and the Galatians; why Paul writes this letter; and what major themes it covers. The guys distinguish between pro and killer tips. A listener wants to know about some verbiage unique to Christians. Also, do you know who holds the record for the longest sentence in the Bible?Passage: Galatians 1-6
110:32 1/22/24
Jesus is Peace
Mike and Ken discuss the sixth and final characteristic about Jesus found in Micah 5:2-5a. Jesus is peace differs from God, man, king, and shepherd, but is like life. The guys define this characteristic, look at where it’s found in the Bible, and how knowing that Jesus is peace makes a difference in our lives. A listener asks the guys if there will be a season 8, and they share how contract negotiations are going. Also, what does one day, lots of water, and 18,272 have in common?Passages: Micah 5:2-5a, Romans 5:1, Ephesians 2:14-18, John 14:26-28, Isaiah 53:4-5, Philippians 4:6-8, 2 Thessalonians 3:16
109:12 1/15/24
Jesus is Life
Ken and Mike discuss the fifth characteristic about Jesus found in Micah 5:2-5a. Jesus is life is a different type of characteristic from the previous of God, man, king, and shepherd. The guys define this characteristic, look at where it’s found in the Bible, and how knowing that Jesus is life makes a difference in our lives. A listener asks the guys for ideas to grow in their relationship with Jesus. Also, what does 976, the ark, pandas, polar bears, and wives, have in common?Passages: Micah 5:2-5a, 1 John 5:11-13, 20-21, 1 Corinthians 15:22, Romans 5:10,18,21, John 14:6, 2 Corinthians 4:10-12, Colossians 3:1-4
118:54 1/8/24
Rewind: Wrapping Up Last Year, Kicking Off The New Year
A new year causes many of us to pause and reflect on the previous year. And then turn our attention to what might lie ahead in the next. In this rewind episode, Mike and Ken discuss why it’s important to reflect on past events, the trouble with New Year’s resolutions, and offer some practices to help get the year started off on the right foot. Also, there is a new listener question for this episode, asking the guys to play a game of this or that. What this or that choices might they have to make? And will their choices be the same?
103:11 1/1/24
Best of Listener Questions Vol. 3 - Christmas Edition
What better Christmas tradition than to gather around the Christmas tree or fireplace with a cup of hot coco and listen to Ken and Mike answer Christmas questions from listeners? Who knows, it might become a new yearly tradition? Or not. All the same, the guys have created a third best of with questions not featured in volume 1 or 2. Every question is a Christmas question and 1 of the 5 is brand new for this special best of episode. The questions you’ll hear are:Season 2 - Episode 48 - November 28, 2022 - Christmas with JohnSeason 2 - Episode 49 - December 5, 2022 - Christmas with MatthewSeason 2 - Episode 50 - December 12, 2022 - Christmas with MarkSeason 2 - Episode 51 - December 19, 2022 - Christmas with LukeSeason 7 - Episode 104 - December 25, 2023 - Best of Listener Question, Vol. 3 - Christmas Edition
85:01 12/25/23
Jesus is Shepherd
Mike and Ken discuss the fourth characteristic about Jesus found in Micah 5:2-5a. It’s not baaa-d because it’s that Jesus is shepherd. Their conversation includes defining this characteristic, looking at where it’s found in the Bible, and how knowing that Jesus is shepherd makes a difference in our lives. A listener wants to know what form of travel the guys would have used in making their way to visit Jesus. Also, have nativity sets and movies been leading us astray when it comes to Christmas? You’ll have to listen to learn about this Christmas conspiracy. Passages: Micah 5:2-5a, John 10, Psalm 23, Luke 15:3-7, 1 Peter 2:23-25, 1 Peter 5:1-4
121:50 12/18/23
Jesus is King
In this episode, Ken and Mike tackle the third characteristic about Jesus found in Micah 5:2-5a. The fact that Jesus is king. Their conversation includes defining this characteristic, looking at where it’s found in the Bible, and how knowing that Jesus is king makes a difference in our lives. A listener asks the guys to settle the debate of whether Christmas decorating should happen before or after Thanksgiving. And have you ever wondered what days are actually the 12 days of Christmas? Well, you’re in luck because the answer is found in this episode.Passages: Micah 5:2-5a, Colossians 1:16-17, Hebrews 1, Matthew 21:1-11, John 12:12-19, John 18:33-37
121:12 12/11/23
Jesus is God and Man
Mike and Ken venture into season 7, which is a special Christmas season. They will be pulling characteristics of who Jesus is from Micah 5:2-5a. In this episode, they lay some groundwork for the season and then discuss Jesus as God and man. The conversation includes defining these characteristics, looking at where they’re found in the Bible, and how knowing these elements about Jesus makes a difference in our lives. Also, what would cause booing and hissing in the episode? A listener wants to know what happened in the guy’s neighborhoods on Halloween. And the guys help solve a family dilemma that arises during recording in their post credits conversation.Passages: Micah 5:2-5a, Philippians 2:1-11, John 1:1-5, Colossians 2:9-10, Hebrews 1:1-4, Hebrews 4:14-16
108:38 12/4/23
Wrap Up: Esther
Ken and Mike review some of the key elements from season 6’s trip through the book of Esther. They break their discussion down into the three types of people found allegorically in this book. These types are non-Christians, fleshly Christians, and spiritual Christians. Also, it’s Jesus Changes People’s 100th episode! As you can imagine, the bunny trails abound. And a listener asks the guys to give some backstory on the show. This sends the guys down memory lane talking about how Jesus Changes People got started, behind-the-scenes elements you may not know, and how it developed in to what it is today. They also talk about challenges, changes, running jokes, and much more.Passage: Esther 1-10
132:40 11/27/23
Victory and a Feast
The day when both edicts of Haman, Esther, and Mordecai go into effect has arrived. What will happen to the Jews and those opposed to them? Will King Xerxes remain in power when this day ends? Join Ken and Mike as they discuss these events and the allegorical picture they paint for us of how we live life in the Spirit. They point out that life in the Spirit is not passive, watches for true outcomes, and stands ready for ongoing spiritual battles we will face. This episode drops Thanksgiving week. The Did You Know segment shares some Thanksgiving history, and a listener wants to know what are some of the guys’ favorite Thanksgiving day dishes. Also, the guys discuss duos, including some they think are great. And who gets sappy during the episode? Passage: Esther 9-10
122:05 11/20/23
Promotion and a New Decree
With Haman out of the picture, what should be done with his estate and the decree to destroy, kill, and annihilate the Jews? Xerxes has some decisions to make. How’s he going to clean up the mess left by Haman? Join Mike and Ken as they discuss the allegorical pictures found in the kingdom's cleanup. Their conversation focuses on how a life switches from flesh as a ruling force to the Holy Spirit; how we handle remnants of the flesh in our lives; the two laws found here pointing to the two laws found in Romans 8:2; and how the change from flesh to Spirit brings freedom and celebration versus bewilderment. The guys also kick around houses they might be willing to have someone give them; sweet treats they’ve found in their new locales; and a mini golf course that holds a Guinness World Record. Did the guys set a record with the amount of stuff they’ve crammed into this episode?Passage: Esther 8
121:34 11/13/23
An Unexpected End to Dinner
Esther finally unmasks Haman. She tells the King about Haman’s plot to destroy, kill and annihilate her and her people. Xerxes is so unhappy he gets up and leaves his wine at the table. Now that says something for a guy that threw a 187 day party! Join Ken and Mike as they discuss the events of Haman’s unmasking and demise. And how these events help us see the way we’re to deal with the flesh in our own lives, from its revealing to its crucifixion. The guys also answer a great question from a listener about similarities and differences between Christian and church culture in Colorado, Florida, and Oregon. What is Ministr-eeze? And are certain biblical characters about to have a run in with their local HOA?Passage: Esther 7
107:02 11/6/23
Unlooked for Honor
King Xerxes can’t sleep, so he has the book of the chronicles read to him. He discovers that Mordecai saved his life. How did he forget in the first place? Mordecai wasn’t honored for this heroism. So what to do? Ask Haman how to honor his archenemy! How’s this going to turn out? Join Mike and Ken as they discuss how the realization of our life being saved affects us; the king missing Haman’s true character; Haman is about to drop all subtly; how Haman can act good when his neck is on the line; and how Haman’s path only leads to ruin. It’s also harvest festival, fall festival, Halloween, whatever time. Will the guys debunk Halloween? Have conversations about candy? Who knows with these two?Passage: Esther 6
107:11 10/30/23
An Invitation to Dine
In this chapter, lives are on the line. Esther risks her life to approach the king, and Haman concocts a plan to kill Mordecai. What will happen to these two main characters? Join Ken and Mike, as they discuss how human free will is respected by God and won’t be forcibly overridden; and also what might be behind the two delays Esther makes in her great reveal about Haman to the king. A listener wants to know how many questions Jesus asked during His ministry. The guys wonder what they might wish for, if they had just one wish. And what are some great and not so great cheesy Christian t-shirts?Passage: Esther 5
108:42 10/23/23
The Plot Discovered
Mordecai catches wind of Haman’s plot. In response, he tares his clothes, and changes into sackcloth and ashes, and then weeps loudly and bitterly. He and Esther pass messages back and forth, using Hathak as their messenger. The chapter ends with everyone fasting for Esther, who plans to risk her life going before the King. Join Mike and Ken as they discuss Godly grief; when we feel we’ve don’t something wrong but don’t know what it is; the interactions between the human soul and spirit and the Holy Spirit; and how we’re to have victory over the flesh in all areas of our lives. Ken’s running on fumes. What does that mean for the show? Also, has he really been up all night playing video games?Passage: Esther 4
104:08 10/16/23
Plot to Get Rid of the Jews
Haman enters the scene and immediately goes toe to toe with Mordecai. He hates him so much that he doesn’t just want to hurt Mordecai, but kill him and all his people. When does he want to do this? He’s not sure, so he roles dice to figure it out. Join Ken and Mike as they dig into Haman’s history and the war between the flesh and Spirit. They also discuss what really makes Christians free to make a choice, whereas those who are not Christians are locked in to one way of doing things. A listener wants to know what the elements in communion represent. Why did Thomas Welch invent grape juice? And, the post credits conversation swerves into reading from a burger restaurant menu.Passage: Esther 3
100:44 10/9/23
The Beauty Contest
With no queen, King Xerxes is sad and lonely staring out his window. He’s remembering his days with Vashti, but those are long gone and can never happen again because of his decree. Well, what better way to make the blues go away than to hold a beauty pageant to find a new queen? Join Mike and Ken as they discuss how being dead spiritually is like a vacuum that sucks the life out of anything; how the Holy Spirit draws us, changes us, gives us a new spirit and fills us with life; and how Christians are no longer inline with the world, devil, and the flesh, so they have entered a war. Also, a listener asks for some help regarding the Holy Land park that may be built in Branson, Missouri.Passage: Esther 2
111:03 10/2/23
The Queen Refuses
Chapter 1 of Esther begins with a bang. It lets us know that King Xerxes third year of ruling over the provinces stretching from India to Cush includes a 187 day party. That sounds exhausting! The festivities didn’t end so well when King Xerxes requests Queen Vashti to appear and parade her beauty. She refuses, which leads to a decree that Xerxes will never see her again along with other consequences. Join Ken and Mike as they talk about the allegorical elements of this chapter, which include Vashti and Xerxes. And how the decisions that Xerxes make affect the whole kingdom. Also, fantasy football, a boo baby, and drawings made in church sneak their way into the conversation along with many other rabbit trails.Passage: Esther 1
106:46 9/25/23
Intro to Esther
If Season 5’s trip through the book of Ruth was the Hallmark channel. What will Season 6 be with the book of Esther, which includes plotting, revenge, murder, and a beauty pageant? Mike and Ken discuss some differences between the stories of Ruth and Esther. They also dig into the Jewish Exile, the characters in the story of Esther, and some themes we will find in this book. Also, a listener wants to know what are the guys’ favorite translations of the Bible. And what can we learn from Johann Sebastian Bach?Passage: Esther 1-10
104:21 9/18/23