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Deep Dish on Global Affairs

Deep Dish on Global Affairs goes beyond the headlines on critical global issues. With world news in rapid development, Deep Dish brings together experts in foreign policy, national security, economics, and whatever field is in flux during the week to talk through what's happening, why, and why it matters.

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Should the US Embrace or Reject Engagement with China?
Chinese leader Xi Jinping is in his third five-year term as the nation's president, putting him on track to stay in power for life at a time of severe economic challenges and rising tensions with the US. Nonresident senior fellow Paul Heer joins Deep Dish to argue the importance of engagement with China as a necessary component of US foreign policy. If we do not pursue it, he says, we are missing opportunities for a more peaceful coexistence between both countries and the world.   This episode originally aired on August 4, 2022.    Reading List:  The Next Taiwan Strait Crisis Has Arrived, Paul Heer, The National Interest, August 2, 2022   Engagement With China Has Not Failed, Paul Heer, The National Interest, July 14, 2022   Understanding U.S.-China Strategic Competition, Paul Heer, The National Interest, October 20, 2020 
30:24 11/23/23
How to Change the World: Why Quick Fixes Fail and What to Do
Dive into the world of lasting change with Deep Dish! Join host Brian Hanson and author Sascha Haselmayer in a captivating exploration of 'The Slow Lane.' We’ll uncover the secrets behind why instant solutions often miss the mark, and how embracing patience and strategic thinking can pave the way for sustainable transformation to address global challenges. Reading List  The Slow Lane: Why Quick Fixes Fail and How to Achieve Real Change, Sascha Haselmayer & Anne-Marie Slaughter, Berrett-Koehler Publishers, July 18, 2023 
34:46 11/16/23
This Era of Hostage Diplomacy Requires New Answers
From Hamas to Russia to Iran, hostage-taking is on the rise once again and hostage diplomacy has entered that arsenal of foreign policy tools by countries around the world. This week, Northwestern University’s Dani Gilbert guides us through what is new, what has worked and failed in the past, and why countries need new ways to respond to hostage-taking today.     Reading List:  Why the Gaza hostage crisis is different, Danielle Gilbert, Good Authority, Oct 13, 2023  Biden’s hostage diplomacy, explained, Danielle Gilbert, Good Authority, Sept 20, 2023  The Prisoners Dilemma, Danielle Gilbert, Foreign Affairs, Aug 24, 2022 
35:02 11/9/23
How Partisan is US Foreign Policy?
Deep Dish explores how America’s hyper partisan politics are impacting foreign policy actions. Author Jordan Tama shares revelations from his new book, while the Council’s Dina Smeltz unveils fresh survey data to expose how partisanship plays out in US foreign policy.  Reading List:  Bipartisanship and US Foreign Policy: Cooperation in a Polarized Age, Jordan Tama, Oxford University Press, September 1, 2023  Public Opinion Survey Reports, Chicago Council on Global Affairs
24:21 11/2/23
Could an Asian NATO be in the Cards?
The Asia-Pacific region is witnessing a seismic shift in power dynamics as nations like Japan, Australia, and the US forge a game-changing partnership to counter China's influence. The big question: could this lead to a new NATO for the Pacific? And what would that mean? Experts Michael Green and Karl Friedhoff dissect the motives, strategies, and potential outcomes.  Reading List:  Never Say Never to an Asian NATO, Michael Green, Foreign Policy, September 6, 2023 
29:37 10/26/23
Is Poland's General Election a Turning Point for the Nation?
On Sunday, Poland’s opposition parties won a victory in the country’s general election signaling a radical change for the country. After emerging as a major EU success story, Poland’s politics shifted dramatically almost a decade ago, putting it on a nationalist path dominated by a far-right coalition. But now the country appears headed back in a pro-EU direction. Expert Monika Sus and host Lizzy Shackelford shed light on the country's shifting politics and changing role in the global landscape.
26:10 10/19/23
Gaza: Epicenter of the Israel-Hamas War
Deep Dish delves into the heart of the Gaza Strip. Expert Michael Merryman-Lotze and host Brian Hanson discuss its complex history, its people, the role of the region in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and its place in the Israel-Hamas war that has shaken the world. Related Content: 5 things you need to know about what’s happening in Israel and Gaza, Michael Merryman-Lotze, American Friends Service Committee, October 9, 2023  Martin Indyk on Breaking the Hamas-Israel Cycle of Violence, Deep Dish Podcast, May 20, 2021
25:56 10/12/23
Energy Insecurity: Where Climate Change Meets Geopolitics
How is energy insecurity shaping the world's power dynamics? From the urgency of collaboration to the delicate balance between environmental sustainability and national interests, guests Jason Bordoff and Meghan O'Sullivan offer a fresh perspective on the complexities of green energy underlying our modern global landscape. Reading List  The Age of Energy Insecurity: How the Fight for Resources Is Upending Geopolitics, Jason Bordoff and Meghan L. O’Sullivan, Foreign Affairs, May/June 2023 
33:12 10/5/23
BRICS Expansion Explained: New Members, New Challenges
Deep Dish demystifies the world of BRICS+ and delves into the intriguing expansion that is making waves in international diplomacy. Discover its origins and the significance behind its newest members. Atlantic Council’s Colleen Cottle joins host Lizzy Shackelford to explore the motivations, the dynamics at play, and its potential impact on the world stage.  Reading List BRICS has invited 6 countries to join. What does this mean for the US and its allies?, Elizabeth Shackelford, Chicago Tribune, Sep 08, 2023 
21:06 9/28/23
New Technologies Transforming City Life: Dream or Reality?
Can smart cities truly deliver on their promises of innovation and sustainability? On Deep Dish, author and winner of the Pattis Family Foundation Global Cities Book Award, John Lorinc joins host Brian Hanson to navigate the intersection of urban planning technology and ethical concerns in his book Dream States: Smart Cities, Technology, and the Pursuit of Urban Utopias.  Related Content:  Dream States: Smart Cities, Technology, and the Pursuit of Urban Utopia, John Lorinc, Coach House Books, August 23, 2022  Meet the Pattis Family Foundation Global Cities Book Award winner and finalists and submit books for the 2024 award!  2023 Pritzker Forum on Global Cities: Harnessing AI: Tools for Urban Leaders, Event, November 13-15, 2023  Your Data Were ‘Anonymized’? These Scientists Can Still Identify You, Gina Kolata, New York Times, July 23, 2019    This episode is brought to you by UL Solutions. 
29:12 9/21/23
Balancing Religious Diversity and National Identity in France
The expulsion of Muslim schoolgirls for refusing to remove their abayas serves as a stark reminder of France's ongoing struggle to balance its historical commitment to laïcité with its growing religious and cultural diversity. The Council’s Ariel Schwartz joins host Brian Hanson to explore laïcité’s historical roots, modern challenges, and global implications in contemporary society.
22:02 9/14/23
From Likes to Violence: How Big Tech is Helping Fuel Extremism
Deep Dish delves into how the unchecked power of social platforms in the Metaverse, woven into the fabric of modern communication, is fueling conflicts, disinformation, terror, and hate. Experts Kristina Wilfore and Leah Kimathi confront the chilling reality of Big Tech's role in fueling extremism in Kenya, where profit often trumps content policing, and share what Kenyans are doing about it. Reading List: The Council for Responsible Social Media, Website Why dangerous content thrives on Facebook and TikTok in Kenya, Neha Wadekar, Washington Post, July 31, 2022
30:16 9/7/23
From China to Mexico: Tracing the Deadly Fentanyl Trail
With 110,000 drug overdose deaths last year, including 70 percent from synthetic opioids, we examine how international factors have played a crucial role in the US drug epidemic. Vanda Felbab-Brown of Brookings Institution and Regina LaBelle of Georgetown University offer insights on the government's response, effective policy solutions, and the path to recovery.     Reading List:  Why America is Struggling to Stop the Fentanyl Epidemic, Vanda Felbab-Brown, Foreign Affairs, May 15, 2023  3 Actionable Bipartisan Solutions to Address the Overdose Crisis, Regina LaBelle, The Hill, February 02, 2023 
29:39 8/31/23
Sahel in Crisis: Niger’s Coup and the Failure of Western Intervention
Niger's recent coup has reignited debates about democracy, stability, and Western influence. Join Kamissa Camara of the US Institute of Peace and Deep Dish hosts Lizzy Shackelford and Brian Hanson as they explore Niger's coup, its place in the Sahel's instability, and the urgent need to rethink policies in this complex region.  Reading List:  Countering Coups: How to Reverse Military Rule Across the Sahel, Kamissa Camara and Susan Stigant, U.S. Institute of Peace, Thursday, August 3, 2023   Less is More: A New Strategy for US Security Assistance to Africa, Lizzy Shackelford, Ethan Kessler, and Emma Sanderson, Chicago Council on Global Affairs, August 21, 2023 
35:56 8/24/23
Lessons in Security and Diplomacy 25 Years After the US Embassy Bombings
Deep Dish revisits the haunting morning of August 7, 1998, when al-Qaeda struck US embassies in Kenya that claimed over 200 lives and left thousands wounded. Ambassador Prudence Bushnell, who was present during the attacks, and former foreign service officer Mietek Boduszyński, who served in Libya when US facilities in Benghazi were attacked, reflect on how the US government should balance diplomacy and danger, whether the right lessons were learned, and what challenge face US diplomats in today's risky world.    Reading List:  Terrorism, Betrayal, and Resilience: My Story of the 1998 U.S. Embassy Bombings, Prudence Bushnell, Potomac Books, October 1, 2018  Public Diplomacy and the American Fortress Embassy, Mietek Boduszyński, Pacific Council on International Policy, February 13, 2019   Diplomacy Doesn’t Work in a Zero-risk World, Elizabeth Shackelford, Chicago Tribune, November 4, 2021 
30:19 8/17/23
The Oppenheimer Effect: Reigniting Nuclear Awareness
Deep Dish explores the recently released 'Oppenheimer' film and journeys back to the Cold War era when nuclear weapons were etched into popular consciousness. Rachel Bronson and Avery Restrepo of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists explore how nuclear weapons have seemingly faded from public awareness. They draw parallels to today and suggest ways that Gen Z can shape a safer and more responsible future.  Reading List:  Majority in US Want to Learn More about Nuclear Policy, Dina Smeltz, Craig Kafura, and Sharon Weiner, Chicago Council on Global Affairs, July 19, 2023  What Oppenheimer can teach the new generations about nuclear weapons, Magritte Gordaneer, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, July 31, 2023
40:16 8/10/23
Population Paradox: Are Declining Birth Rates Good or Bad for the World?
As birth rates decline and life expectancies increase, some regions are now experiencing a net decrease in population, leaving us to question whether that’s good or bad for the world. Stephanie Feldstein of the Center for Biological Diversity and John Ibbitson, author of the Empty Planet unravel the layers of this population paradox and its implications on society, the global economy, and the environment. Reading List:  Population Decline Will Change the World for the Better, Stephanie Feldstein, Scientific American, May 4, 2023  Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population Decline, Darrell Bricker & John Ibbitson, Crown, February 5, 2019  The Climate Baby Dilemma, Documentary, 2022 
30:22 8/3/23
Will Politics in Taiwan Increase the Risk of Conflict with China?
As stakes rise and tensions mount between the United States and China, the future of Taiwan hangs in the balance. With a pivotal presidential election on the horizon, what are the implications for Taiwanese policy, its alignment with the US, and the risk of war with China? Sam Houston State University’s Dennis Weng and New Bloom Magazine’s Brian Hioe join Deep Dish to offer a glimpse into the uncertain future of the region. Tune into last week's episode for part one of this conversation where Deep Dish focuses on the different positions in the US debate over policy toward Taiwan.
37:30 7/27/23
The Debate on US Strategy in Taiwan-China Relations
As tensions escalate between Taiwan and China, should Washington back Taiwan through increased militarily deterrence or prioritize reassurance and diplomacy with China? Quincy Institute’s Michael Swaine and the Council on Foreign Relations’ David Sacks debate the growing policymaker consensus for US military support to deter a Chinese attack, while considering dissenting views that prioritize political solutions for China-Taiwan unification from the US standpoint.  Tune in next week for part two of this episode where Deep Dish focuses on Taiwan's internal politics around these issues and their views on how to best preserve peace in the China-Taiwan strait. Reading List:  U.S.-Taiwan Relations in a New Era: Responding to a More Assertive China, Council on Foreign Relations, June 2023  How a reckless report could increase the chance of a crisis with China, Michael Swaine, Jake Werner and James Park, Responsible Statecraft, June 29, 2023 
44:27 7/20/23
From Stability to Prosperity: Understanding Costa Rica’s Success
What is the secret to Costa Rica's exceptional success as a politically stable and environmentally sustainable nation?  While other countries in Central America struggle with political upheaval, violence, corruption, and extreme poverty, Costa Rica has become a global example of success with robust institutions, visionary policies, and a thriving eco-tourism industry. The Atlantic Council’s María Fernanda Bozmoski joins Deep Dish to discuss the reasons for Costa Rica’s achievements, explore lessons for other countries, and unpack the challenges that lie ahead for this remarkable nation.
28:54 7/13/23
Lost Lives, Little Attention: The Overlooked Migrant Crisis
While the world closely followed the fate of five privileged men who went missing aboard a Titanic-bound submersible, a fishing boat crowded with migrants traveling from Libya sank in Greek waters. This upped the number of migrants who have died trying to reach Europe by sea this year to nearly 2,000. Award-winning journalist Sally Hayden joins Deep Dish to shed light on the underreported crisis of migrant treatment, the heartbreaking stories of those traveling on the world’s deadliest migration route, and the inadequate news coverage and resources dedicated to this humanitarian issue. Reading List: My Fourth Time, We Drowned: Seeking Refuge on the World's Deadliest Migration Route, Sally Hayden, Melville House, March 29, 2022 Ignoring the Humanity of Migrants Won’t Fix Migration Problems, Elizabeth Shackelford, Chicago Tribune, June 30, 2023
23:03 7/6/23
Unraveling Haiti Two Years after Moïse’s Assassination
Haiti marks the two-year anniversary of President Jovenel Moïse's assassination. On Deep Dish, we unravel the intricate dynamics that make Haiti's path to stability so challenging. Haitian journalist Monique Clesca and the International Crisis Group’s Renata Segura offer their perspectives on the complexities of the situation and explore pathways on Haiti's struggle for a brighter future.
30:09 6/29/23
Understanding Uganda's Anti-LGBTQ Law
With Uganda's recent passage of an extreme anti-LGBTQ law, Deep Dish explores the external influences, particularly US evangelical groups, that have intensified discrimination in Uganda and beyond. Ugandan journalist Lydia Namubiru unravels the historical context and societal factors behind this pressing issue. And Minority Africa’s Caleb Okereke sheds light on the experiences and challenges faced by LGBTQ communities in Uganda and elsewhere on the continent. Reading List:   The Unholy Relationship Between Uganda's Anti-LGBTQ+ Law and US Evangelicalism, Emma Sanderson, Chicago Council on Global Affairs, June 8, 2023 How US Evangelicals Helped Homophobia Flourish in Africa, Caleb Okereke, Foreign Policy, March 19, 2023 Exclusive: US Christian Right pours more than $50m into Africa, Lydia Namubiru, Open Democracy, October 29, 2020 
26:16 6/22/23
Rethinking our Engagement with the Global South
Why is the relationship between the West and the Global South failing and what can be done? Stimson Center’s Aude Darnal challenges the dominant focus on great power competition and highlights why this approach fails to foster meaningful, mutually beneficial relations. Discover why redefining this lens is essential for the United States, the Global South, and the world.
25:02 6/15/23
Rethinking Conflict Resolution in Sudan
What role do international partners like the United States play in shaping Sudan’s transitional path forward? Deep Dish explores the need for a new approach to conflict resolution that prioritizes civilian interests, joined by Jacqueline Burns, former advisor to the US Special Envoy for Sudan and South Sudan, and Peter Biar Ajak of the Belfer Center. They question traditional methods and uncover alternative strategies for constructive international engagement to secure a peaceful future for Sudan. Reading List: The Violence in Sudan Is Partly Our Fault, Jacqueline Burns, New York Times, April 23, 2023 
38:55 6/8/23
Making Cyberspace Safe for Democracy
Artificial intelligence raises increasingly grim concerns among experts. Are our digital spaces truly safe for democracy? On Deep Dish, the Alliance for Securing Democracy’s Laura Rosenberger and Stanford University’s Jacob Helberg discuss digital interference, misinformation, and data privacy within the lens of geopolitics. [This episode originally aired August 13, 2020]   Reading List: Silicon Valley Can’t Be Neutral in the US China Cold War, Jacob Helberg, Foreign Policy, June 22, 2020  Making Cyberspace Safe for Democracy, Laura Rosenberger, Foreign Affairs, April 13, 2020 
45:45 6/1/23
The Global Cost of Childhood Malnutrition
Nearly one in every four children worldwide is affected by malnutrition. Roger Thurow, senior fellow and author of The First 1,000 Days, joins Deep Dish to explore the impact of good nutrition for mothers and children. He provides ten-year updates on the communities in India, Uganda, and Guatemala featured in his book, explores the importance of good nutrition on growth and development, and considers the vital question: what might a child have accomplished for all of us were they not malnourished and stunted in their first 1,000 days?   This episode is brought to you by the Islamic Food and Nutrition Council of America.   Reading List: Beating the Odds: The Mothers and Children of the 1,000 Days Movement, Chicago Council on Global Affairs, Roger Thurow, March 9, 2023  The First 1,000 Days: A Crucial Time for Mothers and Children—And the World, Chicago Council on Global Affairs, Roger Thurow, May 3, 2016  Lost Chance at Greatness: Hagirso’s Interactive Story, Chicago Council on Global Affairs, Roger Thurow  Student Voices Call for Culturally Appropriate Food in Schools, Agri-pulse Communications, Roger Thurow, September 21, 2022 
33:38 5/25/23
Netflix’s “The Diplomat”: Pop Culture Gives Diplomacy a Boost
Netflix’s hit show "The Diplomat" brings real-world diplomacy to the spotlight. On Deep Dish, Executive Producer of Madam Secretary David Grae and career diplomat Maryum Saifee examine the show’s portrayal of diplomats, the importance of sharing these stories in pop culture, and the significance of the State Department finally going to Hollywood. Reading List:  Transforming State: Pathways to a More Just, Equitable, and Innovative Institution, Truman Center, March 2021  US Embassy in UK fact-checks ‘The Diplomat’, US Embassy London & Aaron Snipe, May 2, 2023 
33:13 5/18/23
Why the Goals of the War Look Different in Kyiv
While the West focuses on Ukraine’s counteroffensive, the stakes look very different inside Kyiv. Fresh from a visit to the capitol city, Council President Ivo Daalder joins former Ukrainian diplomat Iuliia Osmolovska to share Ukrainians’ focus on the long term: integration with the West, consequences of the war, and what comes after.
27:46 5/11/23
The Continent: Changing the Game in African Media
Since its launch three years ago, The Continent has become the most widely distributed newspaper in Africa. Issued via WhatsApp, The Continent tells stories “by Africans, for Africans,” and reveals just how different African news looks when the people living it are the ones writing the stories. Editor-in-Chief Simon Allison joins us on Deep Dish to talk about shaping this new outlet, and Brian discusses what he learned during his month-long trip to Africa, including what US news consumers often don’t hear.
29:11 5/4/23

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