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Wilderness Podcast

Wilderness Podcast's mission is to spread contextual awareness surrounding wilderness issues and ideals by helping to facilitate a more in-depth appreciation through long form interviews with subject area experts. Wilderness Podcast is a conservation-based passion project.


Wild and Free? Wild Horses and Burros | Val Barbour & Janelle Ghiorso | Oregon Wild Horse Organization | Ep. 055
In this episode, I interview Val Barbour and Janelle Ghiorso with Oregon Wild Horse Organization.Topics we discuss:What is so special about wild horses?Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act of 1971.Federal Land management agencies abdicating their responsibilities. Are wild horses a native species?Conflicts between cattle interests and horses.Ecological niches that horses and  burros provide.The health of horses vs cows on public lands.Horse/predator relationships.Horse gathers, sterilization initiatives, and holding facilities. Issues with the immunocontraceptive GonaCon.What keeps Oregon Wild Horse Organization going?Educating the public about the wild horse issue. the Show.
61:26 4/2/23
Montana's Collaborative Nightmare | Michael Garrity | Alliance for the Wild Rockies | Ep. 054
In this episode, we discuss:Mike’s career evolution.How the Alliance for the Wild Rockies has been able to maintain its mission and integrity over the decades.The origins of the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (NREPA).Why the Alliance sues the Forest Service more than any other environmental group in the country.Wild Montana, Greater Yellowstone Coalition and The Wilderness Society’s promotion of harmful logging projects and the destruction of wilderness quality lands as part of a culture and system of corruption.What greases the skids of conservation collaboratives. The public’s overwhelming support of roadless lands in Montana. The ecological price of continuing motorized and mechanized recreation in roadless areas. The importance of quiet to native wildlife and the human animal.The who, what and why of "conservation” collaboratives. The disastrous Blackfoot Clearwater Stewardship Act. The many threats from road building. The Lincoln Property Proposal.The Gallatin Forest Partnership.What true protections should look like under 30x30.How to start turning the tide for wildlands across the Northern Rockies. The Alliance for the Wild RockiesThe good, bad, and ugly of Tester’s Blackfoot-Clearwater Stewardship ActTWS's Roadless ReportThe Bader Report (Gallatin Forest Partnership)Support the Show.
85:40 2/18/23
Capitalism's Grip on the Wilderness Movement | Dr. Joseph Scalia III | Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance | Ep. 053
In this episode, I interview Dr. Joseph Scalia III, practicing psychoanalyst in Livingston, Montana and frequent guest of the program. Dr. Scalia is a board member with the Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance and long-time wilderness activist in Southwest Montana.Topics we cover:  Societal change as an important component of the wilderness movement, Joe’s career as a psychoanalyst, the perversion of truth, Felix Guattari’s The Three Ecologies, National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) shortcoming, the dark obscene underbelly of public lands politics and recreation, neoliberalism and how it drives mainstream conservation, psychological symptomology of capitalism, treating society as the patient, mechanisms of societal change, what drives the Big Greens, confronting painful truths and the unwillingness of many in the grassroots environmental movement to confront reality and advocate for radical change. Support the Show.
105:51 1/16/23
Is Wilderness Still Relevant? | Erik Molvar | Western Watersheds Project | Ep. 052
In this episode, I speak with Erik Molvar, executive director of Western Watersheds Project. We discuss his guidebook writing, the state of our public lands system, the work of Western Watersheds Project, the influence of domestic livestock on Wilderness and public lands, attitudes and historical context of wilderness, Native American omission from the Wilderness Act, the relevancy and importance of the wilderness designation, how to manage public lands for the benefit of ecosystems and the human, collaborative conservation and challenging the dominant culture of colonialism and dominion over nature. Support the Show.
59:54 12/17/22
Hundreds of New National Parks | Michael Kellett | Restore the North Woods | Wilderness 30x30 | Ep. 051
In this episode, I interview Michael Kellett, Executive Director of Restore the North Woods, a non-profit environmental group working in Maine with the mission of creating a new national park near Mount Katahdin. We talk about his early years, his time spent working for The Wilderness Society on the east coast, the founding and vision of Restore, the story about the creation of the first national monument in Maine, the history and culture of New England landscapes and its working forests (i.e. logging), a vision for hundreds of new national parks across the country and how new national parks and wilderness areas should fit within the 30x30 Campaign. Support the Show.
80:10 4/10/21
Oregon's Wilderness Deficit | Erik Fernandez | Oregon Wild | Wilderness 30x30 | Ep. 050
Wilderness 30x30 | A Wilderness Podcast miniseriesIn this episode, I interview Erik Fernandez, Wilderness Program Manager with Oregon Wild. We talk about his position at Oregon Wild, the green fallacy that is the state of Oregon, the state’s dwindling roadless areas and high road density, Oregon’s lack of political champions for wilderness, the outsized influence extractive industries have in the state, the need for bold legislative protections to make up for lost ground, recent anti-wilderness attacks in Washington DC, all about the various ecosystems throughout the state, Erik’s thoughts about 30x30, the pros and cons of different federal land designations, both the positives and shortcomings of the newly proposed Oregon Wild and Scenic Rivers Legislation, the frustrations and inaccuracies around labeling environmentalists as extremists and the wilderness proposals that Oregon Wild is working on across the state.Support the Show.
46:14 3/28/21
Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (NREPA) | Michael Garrity | Alliance for the Wild Rockies | Wilderness 30x30 | Ep. 049
Wilderness 30x30 | A Wilderness Podcast miniseriesIn this episode, I speak with Mike Garrity, Executive Director of the Alliance for the Wild Rockies. We talk about the history of the Alliance,  the work they are involved with, how the Alliance has sued the FS more than any other group in the country, all about the Northern Rockies Ecosystem Protection Act (NREPA), protecting entire ecosystems over state-centric wilderness  bills, protecting endangered species as a means of securing future wilderness, proposed landscape restoration work under NREPA, livestock grazing buyout provisions, Native American considerations, prominent supporters of NREPA, the economic benefits of the Bill, progress in Congress, thinking big and considering seemingly inconceivable political changes in this country as a beacon of hope for the Northern Rockies and beyond. the Show.
38:42 3/14/21
America's Red Rock Wilderness Act | Terri Martin | SUWA | Wilderness 30x30 | Ep. 048
Wilderness 30x30 | A Wilderness Podcast miniseriesIn this episode, I speak with Terri Martin, Intermountain West Organizer with the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance (SUWA). We talk about the founding of SUWA, how they have been successful in an anti-wilderness and anti-federal lands environment, local control efforts undermining the public trust, new wilderness as part of the 30x30 campaign, Native American reception to wilderness in Utah, Bears Ears as a catalyst for 30x30, America’s Red Rock Wilderness Act, the spine of the continent, the importance of landscape connectivity, climate mitigation and refugia, SUWA’s monthly podcast and the measurable impacts that activism has on making a difference on the groundSupport the Show.
47:49 3/7/21
Idaho Wilderness Stewardship | Sally Ferguson | SBFC | Ep. 047
In this episode, I speak with Sally Ferguson, Executive Director of the Selway-Bitterroot Frank Church Foundation (SBFC). We talk about her background, the mission of the SBFC, central Idaho wilderness areas, how Idahoan’s value wilderness, creating advocates by virtue of deep wilderness experiences, how SBFC works with the Forest Service, noise pollution from small engine aircraft in Idaho wilderness areas, SBFC’s trails and stewardship programs and summer volunteer opportunities in the backcountry. Support the Show.
42:08 2/26/21
Climate Disruption | Dahr Jamail | The End of Ice | Ep. 046
In this episode, I interview Dahr Jamail, author of The End of Ice: Bearing Witness and Finding Meaning in the Path of Climate Disruption. We talk about Dahr’s life as an investigative journalist, his introduction to the climate crisis through his reporting, climate as the biggest story of all time, his book The End of Ice, coming to grips with our bleak climate reality, how quickly the climate is changing, having difficult conversations about climate disruption, personal rights versus obligations to the planet and future generations, transitioning from an industrial civilization to something new and creating a life of meaning through service to others and all species on Earth. Support the Show.
51:36 2/11/21
Roadless Rules! | Gary Macfarlane & Katie Bilodeau | Friends of the Clearwater | Ep. 045
In this episode, I speak with Gary Macfarlane, Ecosystems Defense Director and Katie Bilodeau, Staff Attorney with the Friends of the Clearwater in Idaho. We talk all about roadless areas, their history, RARE I, RARE II (Roadless Area Review and Evaluation), fractures in the wilderness community over RARE II, the National Forest Policy Act, the influence of industry on roadless areas, the nitty gritty of the Clinton 2001 Roadless Rule, state specific roadless rules, loopholes in the Roadless Rule, all about the new Friends of the Clearwater Roadless Report for Idaho and Montana, duplicity in the Forest Service on what constitutes protections, out of control and accelerating timber extraction and why we must begin taking roadless lands protection seriously.Support the Show.
72:43 1/18/21
Wilderness Compositions | Stephen Wood | Stephen Wood Music | Ep. 044
In this episode I interview Stephen Wood, a self-described “Wilderness Composer”. We talk about his childhood, what it means to be a wilderness composer, translating his wilderness experiences into music, his time spent in Montana writing compositions and his many residencies across the country. Stephen plays parts of his compositions for us inspired by his visits to the Okefenokee National Wildlife Refuge in George and the Siuslaw National Forest in Oregon and walks us through what he was feeling when writing his pieces. We also discuss appreciating wilderness and drawing upon our wilderness experiences throughout our lives. Support the Show.
64:37 12/28/20
Mountain Bikes, Wreckreation & Wilderness | Christopher Ketcham | Ep. 043
In this episode I speak with Christopher Ketcham, author of This Land: How Cowboys, Capitalism and Corruption are Ruining the American West. We talk about Senate Bill 1695 which would amend the Wilderness Act to allow for mechanized recreation (mountain bikes) in designated Wilderness, the recreation industry's grip on self-professed environmental groups, the Wilderness Act and the ban on mechanization, impacts of mountain biking and other recreation on wildlife populations, allowing mountain bikes in Wilderness as a slippery slope, recreation capitalism, recreation as a distraction and cultural pacifier and fighting for wilderness values.This Land: How Cowboys, Capitalism & Corruption are Ruining the American WestSupport the Show.
48:18 12/2/20
Conservation Through Filmmaking | James Brundige | First Light Films | Ep. 042
In this episode, I speak with James Brundige, an accomplished conservation and environmental filmmaker. We discuss the California and Oregon wildfires, the interconnectedness of the climate and biodiversity crisis, the impacts of climate change across the globe, about his life as a conservation filmmaker working for National Geographic, NOVA, PBS and others, film as the ultimate art form, his early years as a filmmaker, working with Robert Redford and his film Forever Wild, his important film Wildways, Nature Needs Half, The Club of Rome and The Global Safety Net among other topics.Support the Show.
57:27 11/22/20
Gray Wolf Delisting | Amaroq Weiss | Center for Biological Diversity | Ep. 041
Breaking News! On October 29th, the gray wolf lost protection under the Endangered Species Act. In this episode, I speak with Amaroq Weiss, Senior West Coast Wolf Advocate with the Center for Biological Diversity about this news and more. We talk about the history of delisting, the assault on the underlying science, public opinion towards wolves, cultural attitudes, mass wildlife killing programs sponsored by the federal government, regional recovery status, state wildlife agency attitudes, emotionally connecting with wolves, next steps in the courts, Amaroq’s background and all about the Center for Biological Diversity. the Show.
68:42 10/31/20
An Activist's Life | Phil Knight | Montanans for Gallatin Wilderness | Ep. 040
In this episode, I interview Phil Knight, a long-time wilderness and wildlands activist in Montana. We discuss Phil’s guiding in Yellowstone, recently watching wolves kill a Bison, the accelerating destruction of wild nature, the fallacies of forest health initiatives, promoting forest resiliency, Phil’s early years, his activist history, his time with Earth First!, his early frustrations learning about how the government was managing public lands, the timber wars and locking his neck to a loading machine, Cove Mallard in Idaho, the evolution of activism, what Phil is up to today, his project to climb all the high points in Greater Yellowstone which he just recently completed, his hopes for the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem, the insane influx of recreationists on public lands this summer and the inordinate influence of mountain bikers on forest planning policy.Support the Show.
60:22 10/22/20
On Conservation Pathology | Joseph Scalia | Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance | Ep. 039
In this episode, I speak with Joseph Scalia, president of the Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance in Bozeman, Montana. Joe is a practicing psychoanalyst in Livingston and brings a unique perspective to the wilderness movement through his vocation. We talk about the climate, ecological and biodiversity crisis on earth, group psychosis and pathological thought processes, how the Big Greens use propaganda to further their agenda, corporatization of the Big Greens, society’s death drive to “have fun”, misrepresentation of Montanan’s desires to protect Wilderness Study Areas, Joe’s time as president of the Montana Wilderness Association, his awakening and realization that he was participating in a destructive system, how to change hearts and minds within captured conservation groups, the social fallout from leaving the pack and the spiritual gains of speaking the truth and seeking higher purpose. Support the Show.
53:33 10/5/20
Public Lands Grazing: Death & Destruction | Jon Marvel | Western Watersheds Project | Ep. 038
In this episode, I speak with Jon Marvel, public lands activist and the founder of Western Watersheds Project. We talk about his background, his first experiences on public lands in Idaho, what public lands mean to him, looking at ecosystems with fresh eyes, the vast destruction from intensive livestock grazing on public lands, a vision for public lands without the cows, multiple use mandates, the Bundy clan, the contentious founding of the Idaho Watersheds Project (pre Western Watersheds Project), buying grazing leases for conservation purposes, why some conservation groups don’t address the issue of public lands grazing, reflecting back on his time with Western Watersheds, legislative buyout programs, grazing as the most ubiquitous use of public lands and the reasons why grazing destroys ecosystems. Support the Show.
54:36 8/29/20
A Conversation with Derrick Jensen | Derrick Jensen | Deep Green Resistance | Ep. 037
In this episode, I am honored to speak with Derrick Jensen. Derrick is a long time environmental activist, writer and philosopher. He has authored dozens of books and essays and is known in the environmental and conservation movement as one of the great movers and shakers of our time. Derrick challenges us to see the bigger picture, question authority and seek new ways of living with ourselves and the planet. We talk about Derrick’s background, his history as an activist, the gaps he discovered in the environmental discourse, our cultural hate of nature, the epistemology of science, how we perceive the natural world, reverting to hunter gatherer societies, the fact that we are in overshoot, the fundamental roles of natural communities, the problem with agriculture, the troubles with talk of sustainability without addressing psychopathy and power, the responsibility of participating in the predator pray relationship, Jevons Paradox, the ridiculous notion that renewable energy will save us, the hypocrisy of the green new deal, the collapse of civilization, why it’s still worth fighting for a future and living with dignity moving forward into terrifying and uncertain times. Support the Show.
110:10 8/2/20
Predators, Big Greens and the Grassroots | George Wuerthner | Public Lands Media | Ep. 036
In this episode, I speak with George Wuerthner, wilderness activist and wildlands ecologist. George is a frequent guest of the program and a prolific writer and advocate for the wild. He has authored more than 38 books on public lands issues and conservation. We talk about predator hunting and the associated ecological and social fallout, wolf hunting exacerbating cattle grazing conflicts, Aldo Leopold and the wolf as told in his Sand County Almanac, changing the direction and missions of state fish and wildlife agencies, taking on “the old boy”hunting  network, predator management and our value systems.We then pivot the conversation and talk about how some conservation groups have kept their mission intact after experiencing changes and growth, groups that have lost their way (and some reasons why), how to help ensure that grassroots groups stay on track, the problem with the Conservation Collaboratives and how to keep the passion going. Support the Show.
78:29 7/20/20
Medicine Bow Boondoggle | Adam Rissien & Connie Wilbert | Wild Earth Guardians & The Sierra Club | Ep. 035
In this episode, I speak with Adam Rissien of Wild Earth Guardians and Connie Wilbert of the Sierra Club about a massive Forest Service proposal to cut hundreds of thousands of acres of trees (including 80,000 acres in roadless areas!) in the Medicine Bow National forest in Wyoming called the LaVA Project. We talk about Adam and Connie’s organizations and backgrounds, the scale and scope of the LaVA project, its impacts, the harmful effects of road building on the ecosystem, lack of environmental analysis and oversight, similarities to the Four Forests Initiative in Arizona, rewriting the rules of the National Environmental Policy Act to allow for ambiguity, history of fires and logging on the Medicine Bow National Forest, how we should be managing our forests, the false promises of “Forest Heath” initiatives, climate change, forest resiliency and the Forest Service burying scientific information in support of their motives.  Support the Show.
61:43 7/1/20
Grizzly Bear Advocacy | Louisa Wilcox & David Mattson | Grizzly Times | Ep. 034
In this episode, I speak with David Mattson and Louisa Wilcox, grizzly bear and carnivore scientists and activists who live near Livingston, Montana. We talk about David and Louisa’s background, speaking truth to power in Greater Yellowstone concerning grizzly bear management, attempts to delist the grizzly bear, arguments for delisting, achieving viable population numbers, distrusting state management of endangered carnivores, hunting and conservation and as a business model, juxtaposing domination vs holistic world views towards natures, elk and deer population factors in grizzly country, shifting diets due to climate change, pepper spray vs firearms for countering grizzly attacks, preventing unnecessary grizzly deaths at the hands of hunters, all the positives of having carnivores on the landscape, native American relationships with grizzly bears, our responsibility towards bears, leaving wild things for future generation, the despair of the loss of wildness by Aldo Leopold and openly expressing the love we feel for the wild. the Show.
69:27 6/14/20
Wilderness, Inc. | Scott Silver | Wild Wilderness | Ep. 033
In this episode, we discuss Scott’s background, what Central Oregon was like back in the 1980s, being a gardener vs. letting nature take its course, the Oregon Malheur (Owyhee) Bill, about his organization, Wild Wilderness, Fee Demo (lifting the prohibition of charging user fees for outdoor recreation), the influence of the American Recreation Coalition and the RV Industries Association, the Wise Use Movement, The Blue Ribbon Coalition, the history of motorized recreation on public lands, commercialization and privatization of America’s public lands, promoting undeveloped recreation, the problem with industrial strength recreation, experiencing wilderness through transcendence, the dark side of, Central Oregon Wilderness Reservation System, envisioning a dystopian future of tracking people in Wilderness and the death of the American environmental movement. "Wilderness is a place, a path, and a portal through which those who are willing to throw off their encumbrances are able to connect with their humanity.""When Big “W” Wilderness is treated like little “w” wilderness and little “w" wilderness is treated like parks and parks are treated like playgrounds, the battle for the wilderness will be lost.” Quotes by Scott SilverSupport the Show.
101:36 5/26/20
A Conversation with George Nickas | George Nickas | Wilderness Watch | Ep. 032
In this episode, we discuss George’s background, the greatest current threats to wilderness, practicing restraint as humans, impacts of recreation on wildlife, the value of wilderness beyond human use and enjoyment, sacrificing our enjoyment as recreationalists for the benefit of wilderness, the lesson(s) of wilderness, changing our relationship to the planet, the similarities in the message of the Wilderness Act and climate activists today, recreational demand in the Gallatin Range, the GYE as a special place where we can still protect wilderness on a grand scale, all about the work of Wilderness Watch, the Three Sisters permit system in Central Oregon, noise pollution and its health consequences, noise issues in wilderness, the impacts of livestock grazing in wilderness, retiring grazing permits and climate change and its impacts on wilderness areas. "Founded in 1989, Wilderness Watch is the leading national organization whose sole focus is the preservation and proper stewardship of lands and rivers included in the National Wilderness Preservation System (NWPS). The organization grew out of the concern that while much emphasis is being placed on adding new areas to these systems, the conditions of existing Wilderness and rivers are largely being ignored. We believe that the stewardship of these remarkable wild places must be assured through independent citizen oversight, education, and the continual monitoring of federal management activities." Support the Show.
81:06 5/7/20
Big Wild Adventures | Howie Wolke & Marilyn Olsen | Ep. 031
“I’ve come to the conclusion that groups like The Wilderness Society are no longer apart of our movement. They’re doing something that is completely different. They have strayed so far from their visionary founders. The Wilderness Society, Montana Wilderness Association and the Greater Yellowstone Coalition… I don’t consider any of these groups to be apart of the Wilderness Conservation Movement any longer.” -Howie Wolke on Wilderness PodcastIn this episode, I interview Howie Wolke and Marilyn Olsen. Howie is a past two time president of Wilderness Watch and has been on and off the Board of Directors over the past twenty five years. He is also a recently retired wilderness backpacking guide. Marilyn is a retired nurse and also a retired long-time wilderness and backpacking guide. We talk about how they met, their Wilderness backpacking business (Big Wild Adventures which now has new owners), the cumulative impact of exposing people to Wilderness and wilderness values, the disconnect of employees in many conservation organizations and their deviation from traditional grassroots wilderness advocacy, influence of corporations and foundations expecting compromise and collaboration from conservation groups that they fund, selfishness of certain recreational users, the Gallatin Range (right up against their backyard), the formation of Montanan’s for Gallatin Wilderness, how to revive grassroots wilderness movements, examples of when the Big Greens sold out and abandoned wilderness principles, a message to the Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance and how to reach young folks and making the wilderness movement relevant to them.Howie and Marilyn continue their crusade by writing articles and letters in defense of wilderness and wild places.Support the Show.
80:04 4/22/20
Wilderness in Name Only | Katie Fite | WildLands Defense | Ep. 030
In this episode, I speak with Katie Fite, Director of Public Lands with WildLands Defense. We talk about the disastrous new Malheur/Owyhee Wilderness Bill proposed in Oregon and its failings (releases over one million acres of wilderness-suitable lands to multiple use!), the original Owyhee Bill in Idaho and eerie parallels, the livestock industry and their grip on public lands management decisions, the destructive nature of cows and livestock on fragile high desert and canyon ecosystems, the abysmal state of the Wilderness movement and the shortcomings of the organizations at the helm, the Federal Lands Management Policy Act, The Wilderness Idea and inspiring a wilderness ethic in land management across the board. "The new Malheur Bill in Oregon, really elevates the power of ranchers in public lands management decisions and that’s a significant problem. What the land needs is fewer cows or no cows altogether. Everything gets overrun with cheatgrass and is degraded. It just becomes a very, very bleak landscape." - Katie Fite. Support the Show.
65:23 4/2/20
Everyone Loves "The Bob" | Bill Hodge | Bob Marshall Wilderness Foundation | Ep. 029
In this episode, I speak with Bill Hodge, the Executive Director with the Bob Marshall Wilderness Foundation in Montana. We talk about Bob Marshall the man, the history of the founding of The Wilderness Society, The Bob Marshall Wilderness Complex, Bill’s background, what he learned working on wilderness and trails issues in Tennessee for the Southern Appalachian Wilderness Stewards (SAWS), getting people connected with the Wilderness Idea, Montanan's attitudes towards Wilderness, Mountain Biking in Wilderness, Collaboration and Compromise and what his organization does.Support the Show.
66:22 3/21/20
Early Adirondack History | Thomas Welch | Adirondoc | Ep. 028
In this episode, I speak with Thomas Welch, retired pediatrician, Adirondack guide and amateur historian about early Adirondack history. We begin with the first ascent and expedition up Mount Marcy (the tallest mountain in the Adirondacks) with geologist Ebenezer Emmons (Geologist), William Redfield (Meteorologist), John Torrey (Botanist) and their scientific pursuits. We then talk about Verplanck Colvin and his surveying expeditions which latest from 1872 to 1900 where he mapped and measured the entirety of the Adirondack Park. We also discuss Bob Marshall and his formative years on Saranac Lake and his time climbing and exploring the high peaks, inspired by Colvin’s surveys. Bob’s time in the Adirondacks inspired his essay “The Problem with Wilderness” and led to his deep appreciation of wilderness values and its importance to the human spirit. Thomas also tells the story of Vice President Teddy Roosevelt and his harrowing descent of Mt. Marcy after learning of the assassination of President McKinley.Support the Show.
45:51 3/4/20
Save the Wild Gallatins! | Joe Scalia & George Wuerthner | Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance | Ep. 027
In this episode, I speak with Joe Scalia and George Wuerthner of the Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance (GYWA) about their vision of protecting all 700,000 acres remaining roadless lands in the Custer Gallatin National Forest north of Yellowstone National Park in Montana. We discuss the history of the Gallatin Range, its ecological significance to the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem, the wildlife that can be found there, increasing population pressure and threats from intensive recreational interests. We also discuss the Gallatin Forest Partnership, consisting of The Wilderness Society, Montana Wilderness Association and the Greater Yellowstone Coalition and the disheartening "wilderness lite" option that they are putting forward. Please watch the new promotional film for the GYWA "Yellowstone Uncompromised"'s website (updates coming soon) the Show.
59:59 2/20/20
This Land: Cowboys, Capitalism & Corruption | Christopher Ketcham | Ep. 026
In this episode, I speak with Christopher Ketcham, author of This Land: How Cowboys, Capitalism and Corruption are Ruining the American West. We talk about his new book, the cowboy mythos, corruption in federal land management agencies, cattle ranching and grazing on public lands in The West. We also talk about the pending Owyhee wilderness bill (Malheur Community Empowerment for the Owyhee Act)in Oregon and the influence of the cattle industry on the process. We also discuss the failures of the conservation groups at the table. I had a great chat with Chris and I hope you enjoy the conversation. Thanks for listening. Support the Show.
52:51 2/5/20

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