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Contrary to Ordinary, Exploring Extraordinary Personal Journeys

Join Dr. Kim Kutsch, the brilliant mind behind CariFree, as he explores the extraordinary lives of thought leaders in the dental industry, and beyond. Contrary to Ordinary explores further than dentistry - here we unravel the minds of change-makers, paradigm shifters, and world shakers. Every two weeks, we dive into the stories of our remarkable guests—ordinary people who continually defy limits. Discover their tales of success, resilience, and self-awareness, and explore how they leverage these experiences not only to elevate dental practice and patient care but also to champion personal growth and entrepreneurship. Listen for captivating conversations with innovators who seamlessly blend art and technology, pursue curiosity, and create the truly extraordinary. Contrary to Ordinary isn't your typical dentistry podcast—it's a vibrant community that's hit #1 in ‘Entrepreneurship,’ #3 in ‘Business,’ and #21 in ‘All Podcasts’ for a reason. We've had the pleasure of hosting inspiring guests like innovators, dental leaders, pioneering inventors, and artists, including Angus Walls, Machell Hudson, Dr. Simon McDonald, Dr. Bobby Birdi, Rella Christensen, Professor Phillip D. Marsh, Carmen Ohling, John Kois, Dr. Susan Maples, Doug Young, Colt Idol, Stephanie Staples, and many more who've graced our mic. Each episode isn't just a listen; it's a lesson in living an extraordinary life authentically, embracing rebellion, and nurturing leadership. We dive into diverse topics, from mentoring, coaching, personal development, and work-life balance to self-awareness, emotional intelligence, leadership, storytelling, altruism, and motivation. And yes, we also cover dentistry—exploring natural dentists, dental health, dental laboratories, oral care, oral surgery, dental hygiene, caries disease, brushing teeth, and overall tooth care. Tune in to Contrary to Ordinary for a unique blend of wisdom that goes beyond the ordinary and resonates with all aspects of life! This podcast aims to empower you to be extraordinary in your dental practice and improve not just your dental care but your overall life! Do you have an extraordinary story you’d like to share with us? Or perhaps a question for Dr. Kutsch. Contact us on our Instagram, Facebook or Twitter today. About Our Host: Meet Dr. Kim Kutsch: a retired dentist with 40 years of experience, prolific writer, thought leader, inventor, and researcher in dental caries and minimally invasive dentistry, brings his insatiable curiosity to the forefront. Eager to learn from those breaking boundaries in dentistry, particularly in preventative and non-invasive dentistry approaches, Dr. Kutsch launched the Contrary to Ordinary podcast. As a keen creative and curious mind, Dr. Kutsch extends his podcast guest list to artists, entrepreneurs, and fascinating minds who have piqued his interest. He wants to learn from them and see how he can be inspired by their extraordinary ways of living and adapt his learnings into his own life and his business, CariFree. About CariFree: CariFree is the new model for oral health and cavity prevention. Dr. Kutsch is the CEO and founder of this business. They create cutting-edge technology and science-based solutions to common dental health concerns for the whole family, making it easy to banish cavities for good with preventive strategies over restorative procedures. Find out how dentists are using CariFree products to revolutionize their dental practices here: https://carifree.com/success-stories/.

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This week’s guest is Dominik Lysek, an entrepreneur with over 15 years of impactful contributions to the dental and pharmaceutical industries. He is the CEO of PharmaTrail, a Swiss company specializing in blockchain-based software solutions for capturing and managing clinical trial data. Dominik also serves on the board of several companies, including the dental science firm Vvadis and the RNA-based therapeutics organization Altamira Therapeutics.In 2010, Dominik founded Credentis, a company that pioneered groundbreaking enamel restoration technology. This marked the beginning of his journey in innovation and entrepreneurial success.Please be advised that this episode includes a discussion of cancer mortality.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestDominik Lysek on LinkedInPharmaTrail WebsiteAltamira Therapeutics WebsiteThe Futuri Foundation (The Future Foundation) WebsiteThe Mentor’s Guide Sample ChapterCancerCare's Cancer Grief ResourceWhat's In This EpisodeDominik's entrepreneurial journey.The relationship between mentor and mentee.Why overnight success takes years.How Dominik’s wife supported him.

9/3/24 • 29:14

This week's guest is Dr. Kelly Blodgett, a man who has made it his life’s mission to challenge the “negative stereotype of dentistry.” Kelly Blodgett founded Blodgett Dental Care in 2001 where active listening plays a crucial role in the patient experience. Kelly was also one of the first within dentistry to recognize the significance of the mouth-body health connection. He shares his expertise with a large audience on Instagram, where his popular weekly series, Toxic Tooth Tuesdays and Wellness Wednesdays, have garnered significant attention. The success of Toxic Tooth Tuesdays even led him to take it on tour across the country.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestDr. Kelly Blodgett on LinkedInDr. Kelly Blodgett on InstagramBlodgett Dental Care WebsiteWhat Is Active Listening? - The Harvard Business ReviewWhat's In This EpisodeKelly’s experience on a crisis line.Why active listening is so important.How Kelly manages the patient experience.How the Toxic Tooth Tour came to be.

8/20/24 • 28:25

This week's guest is Dr. Tina Saw, a dentist and serial entrepreneur. She founded Light Solutions Company, which creates wireless lights for dentists, Harmony Health Foundation, an organization supporting healthcare in underserved communities, and Oral Genome, which uses saliva testing to identify potential health issues before they arise.Tina is a proactive problem solver who can't help but create solutions for any problem she encounters. Currently, she doesn't have much work-life balance. With two young children and multiple startups to run, Tina is certainly in her busy era.This conversation took place at SmileCon 2023 in Orlando, Florida, so be prepared for some background noise and maybe even some music.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestDr. Tina Saw on LinkedInOral Genome WebsiteHarmony Health WebsiteLight Solutions Company WebsiteHow to avoid egg on your face from common founder f**k ups - StartUp Factory ArticleWhat's In This EpisodeHow Tina became a serial entrepreneur.Is there such a thing as work-life balance?Why many people should think twice about starting a business.How Tina stopped people pleasing.

8/6/24 • 30:15

This week's guest is Dr. Doug Thompson, a pioneer in understanding the connection between oral health and overall well-being. In 2016, he founded the Wellness Dentistry Network to encourage dentists to adopt this more holistic approach, moving beyond the traditional focus on drilling and filling teeth.Doug also serves on the American Academy of Systemic Health Board and is an adjunct faculty member and clinical instructor at the Kois Center. Doug started his journey as a lab technician, working by day and taking classes by night. This determined path led him to become a dentist in his 30s. Despite his hard work, Doug strongly believes in "living your life along the way," ensuring he enjoys experiences beyond his professional career.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Doug Thompson on LinkedInWellness Dentistry Network WebsiteIntegrative Oral Medicine WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeDoug’s unconventional journey to dentistry.How Doug has faced challenges in his life and career.The art of the late-life career shift.How passion and faith combine for Doug.

7/23/24 • 27:51

This week's guest is the rebellious Leon Hermanides, Owner and President of Protea Dental Studio in Redmond Washington. He’s also a Clinical Instructor and Scientific Advisor at the Kois Center. Leon's journey began in his native Zimbabwe, where his father was a prominent figure in the dental space who had vowed never to leave the country. However, it was a major surprise when his father decided to move the family to South Africa when Leon was 13.Across his life and career, Leon has embraced the idea of incremental change. At one point, he would make drastic changes overnight, believing that this would help his business evolve. However, he now realizes that the best results come from slowing down and figuring out the best changes over a longer period.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInLeon Hermanides on LinkedInProtea Dental Studio Website1. John Kois on Enriching The Heart, The Mind, and Dental IndustryTED Talk: The little risks you can take to increase your luck with Tina SeeligWhat's In This EpisodeLeon’s journey across Africa, and then the world.How Leon embraced incremental change.How risk and reward impacted Leon’s life.Why we should all strive to be extraordinary.

7/9/24 • 26:18

This week's guest is the vibrant and multi-talented Melissa Turner. She is the Senior Executive Consultant and Chief Hygiene Officer at Cellerant Consulting Group, an incubator and accelerator for dental companies. Melissa is also the co-founder of the Denobi Awards, which celebrate the positive impact of dental professionals worldwide. Additionally, Melissa co-hosts the Dentistry Gone Wild Podcast and the IWoman Podcast.This conversation was recorded at SmileCon 2023 in Orlando Florida.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInMelissa Turner on LinkedInMelissa Turner on InstagramThe Denobi Awards WebsiteDentistry Gone Wild PodcastI, Woman Podcast WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeMelissa’s origin story in the Amish community.How Melissa found her feet in dentistry.Finding common ground in the generational divide.Why Melissa founded the Denobi Awards.

6/25/24 • 31:05

Today’s guest is Dr. Mark Benavides, a dentist practicing in Ottawa, Illinois. Mark is a member of several prestigious organizations, including the American Academy of Restorative Dentistry and the International Congress of Oral Implantologists.He also uniquely serves as the Scientific Advisor for Computer Technology at the Kois Center. Mark is the only dentist member of iXorg, an organization that provides technical education and business networking to its members.In honor of Father’s Day 2024, this episode features a few heartwarming stories about Mark’s father - an incredible surgeon who inspired many people throughout his life.This episode contains some strong language. ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Mark Benavides on LinkedInDr. Mark Benavides WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeHow Mark’s journey to becoming a surgeon changedWhy Mark’s father was such an influential characterHow to spot an ‘asshole’ at workWhy a smile goes a long way

6/11/24 • 28:49

Today’s guest is Minal Sampat, speaker, marketing strategist, coach, and bestselling author. Minal is the definition of a third culture kid - she began her life in India and moved to St. Thomas in the U.S. Virgin Islands as a child. Her final relocation was to the US. where she still lives today.Those early years left an impression on Minal and taught her a lot about the value of grit and determination. She began her journey studying dentistry at Rutgers University. But something shifted, and she started to set her sights on a new path - marketing.Minal is the author of the Amazon bestseller Why Your Marketing Is Killing Your Business: And What To Do About It.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInMinal Sampat WebsiteMinal Sampat on LinkedInWhat's In This EpisodeWhere Minal got her grit and determination.Her experience of starting her own business.Why it takes grit to succeed.What people often get wrong about marketing.

5/28/24 • 31:42

Today’s guest is Dr. Bob Margeas, a dental professional in Des Moines, Iowa, a professor of Operative Dentistry at the University of Iowa, and the Editor-in-Chief of Inside Dentistry. Described as the “dentist’s dentist”, Bob has achieved so much in his field, but always embraces his failures, seeing them as a valuable learning opportunity. He sees teaching as a privilege - and never takes his position as an educator for granted. As he puts it - “There are a lot of amazing people out there who never get the opportunity to speak, so you can never assume that the people speaking are the best.”ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Bob Margeas ProfileWhat's In This EpisodeThe mentor that kickstarted Bob’s career.Bob’s first big career failure.Why he’s humbled by the talent around him.Bob’s life as a stepdad.

5/14/24 • 33:58

When we think of oral cancer, we often picture a seasoned smoker or a long-time tobacco user. But did you know that a growing number of cases are affecting young, non-smokers? Over 20% of oral cancer diagnoses occur in people under 55, and the culprit might not be what you expect. The rise in instances is linked to Human papillomavirus (HPV) from unprotected oral sex, not tobacco. During Oral Cancer Awareness Month, we want to take some time to spotlight the extraordinary dentists and practitioners who have taken on this little-understood cancer and are survivors. Today's guest is Dr. Scott Edison, a Clinical Associate Professor at the UNC Adams School of Dentistry. Before Scott found a lump on his neck in 2019, he didn't know all that much about head and neck cancer. Nothing makes you an expert in something more quickly than lived experience, and he set out to find out everything he could about the different types of treatment available to him. What followed was a long and painful journey. Additionally, Scott was diagnosed with prostate cancer soon after.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Michael R. Sesemann on LinkedInDr. Scott Edison UNC Adams School of Dentistry ProfileOral Cancer ResourcesDr. Scott Edison Interview - How Clinicians Can Combat One of the Fastest-Growing CancersDr. Michael R. Sesemann’s Neck Lymph Node Exam VideoHead & Neck Cancer - Insights from Dr. Mike MilliganThe Oral Cancer Foundation WebsiteHead and Neck Cancer Alliance WebsiteChoose Hope WebsiteSide Effects Support WebsiteOral Cancer Cause WebsiteThe American Cancer Society - Seeking a Second OpinionThe American Cancer Society - Dealing with Chemo BrainCariFree Anticavity Fluoride Tooth GelCariFree Moisturizing Oral SprayWhat's In This EpisodeHow Scott’s diagnosis came out of the blue.How side effects are sometimes lifelong.The importance of a supportive survivor community.How having cancer changed Scott’s perspective on his life.

4/30/24 • 33:30

Head and neck cancer is the 7th most common cancer globally. Symptoms may include a lump in the neck, a sore in the mouth, or a sore throat that doesn’t go away. During Oral Cancer Awareness Month, we want to take some time to spotlight the extraordinary dentists and practitioners who have taken on this little-understood cancer and survived.Today's guest is Dr. Michael R. Sesemann, a dentist, educator, and Nebraska Institute of Comprehensive Dentistry founder. Michael has been described as "the best dentist you've never heard of". He exudes a passion for his work that helped him through his cancer diagnosis.Michael served as the President of the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry between 2009 and 2010, is a member of seven American dental associations, and is currently an Adjunct Faculty Member at the Kois Center.In 2018, Michael found a lump on his neck. Like many people often do, Michael didn't get it checked out right away, after being told that it was probably just caused by allergies. When he found out that it was cancerous, he began a long and hard journey to recovery.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Michael R. Sesemann on LinkedInThe Nebraska Institute of Comprehensive Dentistry WebsiteThe Nebraska Institute of Comprehensive Dentistry on LinkedInOral Cancer ResourcesDr. Michael R. Sesemann’s Neck Lymph Node Exam VideoHead & Neck Cancer - Insights from Dr. Mike MilliganThe Oral Cancer Foundation WebsiteHead and Neck Cancer Alliance WebsiteChoose Hope WebsiteSide Effects Support WebsiteOral Cancer Cause WebsiteThe American Cancer Society - Seeking a Second OpinionCariFree Anticavity Fluoride Tooth GelWhat's In This EpisodeWhy Michael loves education.How he discovered the lump on his neck.Why parents should investigate the Gardasil 9 HPV Vaccine.Where Michael found hope in dark times.

4/16/24 • 36:17

Close to 54,000 Americans will hear the words “You have oral or throat cancer” in 2024. Shockingly only about half of them will survive beyond 5 years. April is Oral Cancer Awareness Month, and we want to take some time to spotlight the extraordinary dentists and practitioners who have taken on this little-understood cancer and survived.Today's guest is Dr. Mike Milligan, a dentist who has served the community of Bloomington Illinois for over 45 years. He's also the Founder and President of www.OralSystemicLink.net, an online resource that helps patients and dentists understand how oral health fits into their overall well-being."Help people live better" is Mike's life mission. In this conversation, you're going to hear how, after he was diagnosed with stage 4 head and neck cancer in 2020, Mike made sure to document the entire experience, knowing that his efforts would benefit other survivors.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Mike Milligan on LinkedInEastland Dental Center Websitewww.OralSystemicLink.netOral Cancer ResourcesHead & Neck Cancer - Insights from Dr. Mike MilliganThe Oral Cancer Foundation WebsiteHead and Neck Cancer Alliance WebsiteChoose Hope WebsiteSide Effects Support WebsiteOral Cancer Cause WebsiteThe American Cancer Society - Seeking a Second OpinionWhat's In This EpisodeHow Mike was first diagnosed.Why it's important to be your own health advocate.How faith helped Mike through his cancer.Why Mike decided to create a resource document for other survivors.

4/2/24 • 24:31

This episode marks the first anniversary of Contrary to Ordinary. Thank you so much to all of our amazing guests, and to the listeners that have made this show extraordinary. It’s also CariFree’s 20th birthday! Another big thank you to everyone who has been a part of our amazing journey over the last two decades.In the last episode, we began our conversation with Dr. Betsy Bakeman, a private practice owner and expert in restorative and cosmetic dentistry. Betsy is included in an elite group of less than 300 dentists worldwide who are Accredited by the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry (AACD). In fact, she is one of 50 dentists worldwide and the first dentist in Michigan to have achieved the distinction of being an Accredited Fellow in the AACD.In Part 1, Betsy discussed the first people who believed in her, how much learning at the Kois Center means to her, and how important constructive criticism is to personal growth.Today, Betsy discusses the future of digital dentistry, her forward-thinking mentality, and we ponder why extraordinary people don’t often see themselves that way.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr Betsy Bakeman's WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeThe future of digital in dentistryBetsy’s mindset around teachingWhy she doesn’t see herself as extraordinaryWhat excellence means to Betsy

3/19/24 • 27:27

Dentists want every single one of their patients to walk away from a treatment with a smile that they can be proud of. If a practitioner can also make their patients feel comfortable in the alien world we inhabit, they must be doing something extraordinary, right?Today's guest is Dr. Betsy Bakeman, a private practice owner and expert in restorative and cosmetic dentistry. Betsy is included in an elite group of less than 300 dentists worldwide who are Accredited by the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry (AACD). She is one of 50 dentists worldwide and the first dentist in Michigan to have achieved the distinction of being an Accredited Fellow in the AACD.Betsy is also an adjunct faculty member and clinical instructor at the Kois Center which is where our conversation took place.Join us for part 2 of Betsy’s interview.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr Betsy Bakeman's WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeThe people who first believed in BetsyWhat does being part of the Kois Center mean to Betsy?Building trust with patientsWhy constructive criticism is important to personal growth

3/5/24 • 30:52

Compassion, Altruism, Respect, and Excellent are the tenets that have guided Professor Hien Ngo throughout his career.He’s currently the Dean and Head of the Dental School and Director of the Oral Health Centre at the University of Western Australia. Indeed, Hien is a prolific educator who has taught thousands of students about minimal intervention dentistry and cariology all over the world. He was instrumental to the establishment of the Minimal Intervention 2020 projects in Adelaide and other dental schools in South East Asia. He serves on the board of the Academy of Minimally Invasive Dentistry and the editorial board of the Journal of Dentistry, Journal of Oral Health and Preventive Dentistry.Hien also has an amazing backstory. He grew up in Vietnam during the war, relocating to the Philippines and later the US. with his father. He finally settled in Australia, which he now calls home.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInHien Ngo on LinkedInWhat's In This EpisodeHien’s incredible journey from Vietnam to America.How Hien approaches mentorship.A few acronyms that guide Hien.How Hien approaches teaching.

2/20/24 • 33:47

Letting go of the past can be hard. So hard in fact that it’s easy to become defined by it. However, there are some extraordinary people out there who have rewritten the narrative around themselves, inspiring others to do the same.Today's guest is Bonnie Milletto, a motivational speaker, author, and youth advocate. As a lonely child who was in and out of foster homes, Bonnie was often told that she wasn't good enough and that she would never have a voice.She was labeled 'high-risk' by her carers, who believed that her future was bleak. But Bonnie defied all the odds, and now passes her wisdom on to others who could benefit from a little support and encouragement.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInBonnie Milletto LinkedInBonnie Milletto WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeBonnie’s difficult childhoodHow Bonnie found her voiceWhy did Bonnie decide to become an author?Bonnie’s youth advocacy work

2/6/24 • 34:03

In the last episode, we began speaking with pastor and author Laura O’Brien. Laura has served the congregation at the Good Shepherd Lutheran Church in Albany, Oregon, and was about to move on to new opportunities at the time of this conversation.In part 1, Laura discussed her upcoming book Hell Hope on Wheels, which charts her incredible journey across the US, Europe, and eventually to her career as a pastor. Laura wasn’t brought up in a religious household and encountered many ways of practicing faith in her travels. However, it was only when she started studying the historical elements of the Bible that she found her preferred form of worship.Today, Laura is going to talk a little about life now and how many of the lessons she's learned in her journey as a pastor can be applied to all leaders in their niches.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInWhat's In This EpisodeWho mentored Laura?Laura’s approach to change making.How to find true peace.Why human nature never really changes.

1/23/24 • 31:56

Faith is an important tool that many people use to navigate the world. Today’s guest, Pastor Laura O'Brien has had an unconventional journey to finding hers. Laura is a Lutheran Pastor, who has worked all over the world. Her book Hell Hope on Wheels charts her incredible journey across the US, Europe, and eventually to her faith. Laura wasn’t brought up in a religious household and was even exposed to some elements of faith that she didn’t agree with on her epic journey. In part 1, we’ll be focusing on some of the life events that feature in her book. Join us next time for part 2 of Laura’s interview.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInWhat's In This EpisodeThe moment when Laura’s life changed.Her experience in Brazil that turned her away from faith.Laura’s time in Washington D.C working for a notable political figure.How Laura finally found her faith.

1/9/24 • 41:16

Welcome to a very special holiday episode of Contrary to Ordinary. Today, we’re taking a look back over some extraordinary conversations from across 2023. The mission of this podcast has been to figure out what makes a person extraordinary. Are they born with it? Can it be taught? Is work/life balance even possible for people who have made extraordinary strides in their careers? Extraordinary people come in many shapes and sizes, but this show has identified a few common traits that they share. They’re usually curious, lifelong learners who love to gain more knowledge. They don’t waste time and don’t sit still for too long. Finally, they don’t do it for the money. They do it to help others and the world. Thank you so much for listening. Contrary to Ordinary will return in 2024 with more extraordinary conversations.This episode features the voices of Dr. Rella Christensen, Dr. Doug Young, Machell Hudson, Dr. Philip D. Marsh, Stephanie Staples, Dr. John Kois, and Professor John Featherstone. ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInWhat's In This EpisodeA comparison of three, very different dental origin storiesSome fantastic advice about following your dreamsA real example of what it means to challenge the status quoExtraordinary people telling their stories

12/25/23 • 20:02

People who show grace and poise during stressful times are often compared to a swan drifting across the water. You might not see it, but a lot is going on under the surface to maintain that calm exterior. They rehearse, they plan, and they still get the jitters, even if they are very experienced and talented.Today's guest is Dr. Amanda Seay, an accomplished and accredited dentist and private practice owner who also educates through her training organization, imP.R.E.S. After graduating in 2011, Amanda went on to become a mentor and clinical instructor at the Kois Center. This conversation was recorded before the 25th Kois Center Symposium, where Amanda was speaking.Amanda’s advice for anyone struggling with self-doubt is that "when someone sees something in you that you don't see in yourself, you need to believe them." She now mentors many early-career women, sharing her lived experience of balancing family and dentistry. As a mother of four kids, she has plenty of advice to share.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Amanda Seay on LinkedInimP.R.E.S. WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeAmanda’s winding path into dentistry Her first, nerve-wracking experience of presenting.What advice does she give to other people trying to balance work and family?Something surprising that not many people know about Amanda.

12/12/23 • 47:58

In the last episode, we began speaking with Dr. Simon McDonald, CEO and co-founder of Rhondium. Simon is a "serial inventor and entrepreneur", who has brought a number of groundbreaking inventions into the field of dentistry. You might be familiar with the V-Ring and the Tri-Clip, but his other notable inventions include the One Visit Crown and the Grip Tab. In part 1, Simon talked us through his inventive process and stressed that each of his creations have taken countless hours to be fully realized. He also described how he studied dentistry in the UK at King's College in London but moved to New Zealand when his first child was still young. He fell in love with the country and set up his own dental practice there. Through the years, he used the spare rooms in his practice to house the dental inventions he’s created across his career.In part 2, we’re going to delve into some more of Simon’s inventions and explore why he is grateful for everything he gets in life.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Simon McDonald on LinkedInRhondium Dental Products WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeWhat did a young Simon like to do?Simon’s latest product offering.Why Simon is so grateful for everything he receives.Simon’s adventures outside of dentistry.

11/28/23 • 28:48

Today’s guest is Dr. Simon McDonald. He's been described as a "serial inventor and entrepreneur", who has brought a number of groundbreaking inventions into the field of dentistry. You might be familiar with the V-Ring and the Tri-Clip, but his other notable inventions include the One Visit Crown and the Grip Tab. Simon studied dentistry in the UK at King's College in London but moved to New Zealand when his first child was still young. He fell in love with the country and set up his own dental practice there. Through the years, he used the spare rooms in his practice to house the dental inventions he’s created across his career. Like many of the guests on this show, Simon never sits still and balances his dental practice alongside other projects. Simon’s inventions have advanced the way that dentistry approaches oral care. This is Part 1 of Simon’s interview, and this episode will focus on his inventive spirit and discuss the countless hours it takes to realize an invention as a reality.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Simon McDonald on LinkedInRhondium Dental Products WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeHow Simon found dentistry.Why Simon loves inventing better dental products.A few entrepreneurs that inspire Simon.What it takes to create a truly groundbreaking dental product.

11/14/23 • 38:31

Today’s guest Dr. Bobby Birdi is unique in many ways. However, many people know him for being one of North America’s very few Certified Dual Specialists in Periodontics and Prosthodontics. He is an adjunct Associate Professor at the University of British Columbia and the University of Minnesota, where he is involved in multiple dental implant research projects and clinical trials. He also actively lectures both nationally and internationally in the fields of implant surgery and prosthetics. Bobby is also the co-founder of the Digital Dentistry Institute which offers global training programs in 11 countries.He's written articles, has contributed to textbooks, and so much more. It's clear from this amazing resumé that Bobby is someone who is passionate about all things dentistry.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr.Bobby Birdi on LinkedInDr. Bobby Birdi BioWhat's In This EpisodeBobby’s grateful approach to his life.How does Bobby manage his time?Bobby’s approach to mentorship.The guidance of Bobby’s children.

10/31/23 • 31:24

In this episode we're speaking to someone who "helps guide high achieving women to write their own permission slip and live the life of their dreams". Carmen Ohling, a keynote speaker, Flow Academy founder, and holistic life Coach. After 16 years in the corporate world, Carmen made the decision to follow her passion to help others be their best selves. Everyone who meets Carmen is inspired by her and I'm excited to share our conversation with you today.At 25 Carmen found out that she had multiple sclerosis, but instead of slowing down, she worked even harder in her corporate career. Eventually, she started asking herself what she really wanted. She invites us all to ask better questions of ourselves, even when we’re busy and before we burn out.Carmen is also the host of The Permission Slip Podcast, where she talks about different facets of life including mindset, health, business, and more. It gives practical advice for listeners to change their lives today.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInCarmen Ohling on LinkedInCarmen Ohling WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeWhy did Carmen decide to become a life coach?Carmen’s experience of the corporate world.What sort of questions should we be asking ourselves?How Carmen found inner peace.

10/17/23 • 41:27

In this episode, we're going to be talking to a person who helps people who are nice for a living thrive - Stephanie Staples. Stephanie is a prolific motivational speaker and coach who shares her positive message with busy professionals. She has a background in nursing, but after a moment of extreme burnout, she decided she wanted to dedicate her life to helping other people realize their full potential. Her coaching style is magnetic. You'll find her mingling with her audience, encouraging them to work harder on themselves than on anything else. Stephanie has also appeared on radio, television, and is the author of When Enlightening Strikes – Creating a Mindset for Uncommon Success, The Try Angle: A New Slant on Life, and even a children’s book: Noah & the Try-ceratops.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInStephanie Staples on LinkedInYour Life, Unlimited WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeHow a moment of burnout set Stephanie on a motivational speaker’s path.The challenges that Stephanie experienced growing up.How Stephanie coaches people who are ‘nice for a living’.How ordinary people inspire Stephanie.

10/3/23 • 38:56

The first working laser was operated by Theodore Maiman on May 16 1960 at the Hughes Research Laboratory in California. Maiman may have been the first person to operate a laser, but the theory behind them dates back to Einstein in the early 20th century. He was already thinking about a way to amplify light and its source before we had the means to do it.After their pioneering use in the 60s, it didn’t take long for medicine to take note and start testing lasers. Today's guest is Bill Brown, who became interested in lasers and their use in dentistry during that pioneering period of engineering history. Bill is one of the last men standing from the early period of lasers and their use in dentistry and he’s seen a lot of change over the years.Bill currently serves as Vice President of innovation and Business Development at BIOLASE, a world leader in dental lasers.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInBill Brown on LinkedInBIOLASE WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeWhere does Bill get his drive and energy?The pioneering use of lasers in dentistry.Why you should try and push outside of your comfort zone.Bill’s health struggles in his early life.

9/19/23 • 37:40

What do Albert Einstein, Coco Channel, and Thomas Edison have in common? During their studies, they were all seen as 'difficult students'. They looked at the rigid systems that they were part of and rejected them. Now we see them as innovators and pioneers whose achievements ring through history.Questioning education paradigms is something that Dr. Graeme Milicich is all too familiar with. He’s practiced dentistry for over 40 years and began challenging existing practices during his time at dental school. Today Graeme is known around the world for his pioneering work in minimally invasive dentistry. He’s an expert in the fields of minimal intervention, caries risk assessment, and management of minimal intervention restorative techniques. He's a Diplomate and Founding Board Member of the World Congress of Minimally Invasive Dentistry (WCMID). He’s also a Fellow, Master, and Board Member of the World Clinical Laser Institute, and a Founding Board member and Honorary Lifetime Member of the New Zealand Institute of Minimal Intervention Dentistry.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Graeme Milicich ProfileWhat's In This EpisodeGraeme’s experience of hard labor.Learning how to say ‘no’.How Graeme moved the dial on minimally invasive dentistry.What values are most important to Graeme?

9/5/23 • 37:45

Pets are, in many ways, a mirror to ourselves. If we care for and invest time in them, you're going to see that reflected back at you ten-fold. And today's guest certainly understands the complex world of animals and how to keep them happy. Dr. Rick Cambell, the owner of Willow Creek Pet Center, the largest veterinary group practice in the United States. In the world of veterinary medicine, Rick is extraordinary. He's treated thousands upon thousands of animals across his career and was one of the first people to recognize the importance of early years training for puppies.For Rick, it's never been about the money. Like many extraordinary people, he's always sought to serve. He's been described as a "continuous learner that strives to be the best in all he does''. After a difficult childhood, Rick spent time in the military before deciding to pursue a career in veterinary medicine. ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInDr. Rick Campbell on LinkedInWillow Creek Pet Center WebsiteWhat's In This EpisodeRick opens up about his difficult upbringingHow does Rick approach leadership?Rick’s proudest career achievementHow to understand the ‘two-legged animal’

8/22/23 • 36:32

"We all know that art has monetary value but its true value is much deeper. Art transcends race, religion, wealth, status and age. It is connected to us at a soul level. The need for artful expression has always been and will always be. It is for everyone, by everyone."These are the words of today's guest Colt Idol, a painter who is described as the “new face of the Old West”. Colt uses dazzling color and plays with form in his work to bring to life the freedom and nostalgia of a time long gone. Before Colt became an artist he was working towards a professional baseball career but suffered a number of injuries that eventually forced him to put that dream to the side. His father, the renowned outdoor personality and artist Dick Idol brought him into his world, setting up alongside him at an easel in his studio. Colt is a lifelong resident of Montana and operates a number of galleries locally, as well as selling his own art. Colt believes that art is a utility and something everyone can enjoy in their own way.ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInColt Idol WebsiteColt Idol InstagramWhat's In This EpisodeHow Dick Idol took Colt under his wing.Colt’s use of color to create other worlds.What is the utility of art today?How we can all appreciate and experience art.

8/8/23 • 35:41

In his 1841 essay Self-Reliance, philosopher and essayist Ralph Waldo Emerson tells us to “trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that iron string”. In other words, we should all trust in the sacredness of ourselves and our own path, and not try to imitate the road others are destined to travel. Emerson wrote extensively about individuality, self-reliance, and non-conformism, and it makes sense that today’s guests would have a quote from him hanging on his refrigerator.Professor John Featherstone has always followed his own, as he puts it, “weird” dreams. He’s the retired Dean of Dentistry at the University of California, San Fransico, and spent ten years in the role after joining the faculty in 1995 as a professor. He’s contributed so much to the field, but one of John’s greatest achievements has to be the Caries Management By Risk Assessment (CAMBRA) Protocol which he co-created during his time at UCSF. The CAMBRA Protocol looks beyond the traditional ‘drill and fill’ approach to dentistry towards more preventative, long-term solutions. John has won more prizes and titles than you can count but admits that sometimes his work became all-consuming.If all that wasn’t enough, John is also an accomplished pianist, mountain climber, skier, and author. He’s also mentored so many people throughout his career, which he cites as his proudest achievement. ResourcesFollow your curiosity, connect, and join our ever-growing community of extraordinary minds.CariFree WebsiteCariFree on InstagramCariFree on FacebookCariFree on PinterestCariFree on TwitterDr. Kim Kutsch on LinkedInProfessor John Featherstone LinkedInWhat's In This EpisodeJohn’s whirlwind life of study and practiceThe importance of scholarships and mentoring to JohnHow everyone should find their own pathJohn’s road to peace

7/25/23 • 42:29